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My car (Mercedes C300 RWD Sport) is getting near to needing some new tires, 15k after I drove it off the lot. Needless to say, the runflat Continentals (at $1,200 a set) will not be going back on. Pretty strongly considering going with the same Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ that we have on our Flex, as they've been great on there too. Going high a high performance all-season for the longer life & am ok to sacrifice a bit of max performance for it. Also, given that the Sport pkg on the C gives a staggered setup, having non-directional tires would allow L/R rotation, without having to dismount the tires. Browsing Tirerack, a couple other high-rated options are there as well. 225/40-19 & 255/35-19 Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric A/S The Potenza is Tirerack's #1 rated high-perf A/S, followed by the Michelin; the Conti & Goodyear being 5 & 11, out of 28. The above are all UTQG 500 or more. Even though I wasn't a big of fan of the Potenza my aunt had on her IS300 (back in 2005-7) they may take the lead over the Michelin due to being over $100 cheaper for a set & having a better warranty. Michelin halves the treadwear warranty on staggered setups. Any others I should consider, or thoughts on the above? The Enemy's gate is down. | ||
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Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
High Performance and All Season really don't go together. Performance All Season is about really all you are going to get even though some companies like to call them High Performance. I had the Continental ExtremeContacts on my Audi and they were great in all weather. Snow they were pretty solid. It was easy to walk he thing sideways but very controllable. If I were to do that again I would have a set of Nokians for the winter. Granted I had the quattro system so that helped substantially. Personally I would never have out driven those tires but there are many that would. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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The Constable |
I run the Conti's on my 2017 SS Camaro once it gets cold. It never sees snow, but they do seem to be quiet, have dec ent stick, and work well in the rain. | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Do you track your car? Or is this just a daily driver? I used to run RDOTs (Nitto NT1 iirc) for both, but heat cycling and rain make it tough. Otherwise I prefer Bridgestone. Currently on Michelin PS2, but won’t go back after these are done. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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We don't get much winter here in Houston (it's currently 54*) Wet performance is a big deal, as is treadlife. I'm not going to spend >$1k every 15k miles, hence the switch to all-seasons. I'm ok with a small drop in max performance (that rarely would even get used) for the benefit of longer treadlife. I think we have something north of 30k on the Michelins from the OP on our Flex & they've got a good amount of tread left. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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It's my commuter, I may think about an autocross or 2 with it, but doubtful it'll ever see a track. If I did decide to pursue any track/extended auto-x with it, I'd source a set of the 18" sport pkg wheels as a 'track set'. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Conti DWS 06 is a solid choice. I had them on my Subaru Legacy and now on my BRZ. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
Then you will likely be quite happy with the Contis. I think I put 30k on them before selling the car with lots of life left. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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thin skin can't win |
Had a couple sets of these on an Infiniti G35 and liked them. They most definitely aren't as grippy as the performance Pilots or P-zeros I've got on other cars, but are serviceable in colder, rainy weather than those. They did suck royally in even the dusting of snow we'd get from time to time in DFW area, but in Houston you should be fine. I was getting ~30K out of them, which was fine for me. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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I put these on our Flex based on the review from LBJ here. They've been great in all conditions so far, high heat in Houston to low 20s in Flagstaff, AZ. Good grip in heavy rain (more common in Houston) as well. But, of the 4 listed, they're also the priciest as just sub-$1k before installation. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Do the next right thing |
Assume that the milage warranty is halved on staggered fits for all of them. | |||
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Spiritually Imperfect |
Two months thus far on the Michelin PS A3s that came on my '16 Ford Fiesta ST. So far, they have been solid in some pretty heavy rain, and on twisty country roads. The PS that were on my E46 BMW were incredibly noisy as they wore down; my hope is the A3s won't be like that. | |||
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Political Cynic |
high performance and 'all season' are mutually exclusive and 'all season' become 'three season' after the first season and performance goes downhill from there if you want high performance, then get a tire for precisely that anything else will give you 'ok performance' [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Gone but Together Again. Dad & Uncle |
Per Consumer Reports... Ultra Performance All Season Performance All Season: | |||
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I was happy with the Conti Extreme DWS as a part-time street tire and a part-time track tire on my '03 Corvette. | |||
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Gone but Together Again. Dad & Uncle |
Now you could do like I do and go with the best of summer tire. Here are Consumer Reports picks I just downloaded for you today: and then purchase an extra set of wheels and go with the best of winter: | |||
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Honor and Integrity |
Look at the Nokian ZLine tires. I've read favorable reviews. | |||
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I realize that a 'performance' all season is a step down from just about any level performance summer tire. But, a UTQG 280 just wears too quickly for me & I'd rather get the best performance A/S without having to deal with the rapid wear the Contis had. At the end of the day, it's a commuter that sees mostly highway miles & is unlikely to get pushed hard enough to merit a quickly wearing Summer Performance tire. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Not enough winter here to merit a 2nd set of wheels & dedicated winter tires. Only reason I'd invest in a 2nd set would be for fun (Auto-x & HPDE). The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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For real? |
Another vote for the Contis. I had them on my BMW after ditching the runflats. I plan on doing it again. Not minority enough! | |||
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