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My car (Mercedes C300 RWD Sport) is getting near to needing some new tires, 15k after I drove it off the lot.
Needless to say, the runflat Continentals (at $1,200 a set) will not be going back on.

Pretty strongly considering going with the same Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ that we have on our Flex, as they've been great on there too. Going high a high performance all-season for the longer life & am ok to sacrifice a bit of max performance for it. Also, given that the Sport pkg on the C gives a staggered setup, having non-directional tires would allow L/R rotation, without having to dismount the tires.

Browsing Tirerack, a couple other high-rated options are there as well.

225/40-19 & 255/35-19

Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+
Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS
Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric A/S

The Potenza is Tirerack's #1 rated high-perf A/S, followed by the Michelin; the Conti & Goodyear being 5 & 11, out of 28. The above are all UTQG 500 or more.

Even though I wasn't a big of fan of the Potenza my aunt had on her IS300 (back in 2005-7) they may take the lead over the Michelin due to being over $100 cheaper for a set & having a better warranty. Michelin halves the treadwear warranty on staggered setups.

Any others I should consider, or thoughts on the above?




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High Performance and All Season really don't go together.

Performance All Season is about really all you are going to get even though some companies like to call them High Performance.

I had the Continental ExtremeContacts on my Audi and they were great in all weather. Snow they were pretty solid. It was easy to walk he thing sideways but very controllable. If I were to do that again I would have a set of Nokians for the winter.
Granted I had the quattro system so that helped substantially.
Personally I would never have out driven those tires but there are many that would.


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I run the Conti's on my 2017 SS Camaro once it gets cold. It never sees snow, but they do seem to be quiet, have dec ent stick, and work well in the rain.
 
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Do you track your car? Or is this just a daily driver?

I used to run RDOTs (Nitto NT1 iirc) for both, but heat cycling and rain make it tough. Otherwise I prefer Bridgestone. Currently on Michelin PS2, but won’t go back after these are done.





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We don't get much winter here in Houston (it's currently 54*)
Wet performance is a big deal, as is treadlife. I'm not going to spend >$1k every 15k miles, hence the switch to all-seasons.
I'm ok with a small drop in max performance (that rarely would even get used) for the benefit of longer treadlife.

I think we have something north of 30k on the Michelins from the OP on our Flex & they've got a good amount of tread left.




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Do you track your car? Or is this just a daily driver?

I used to run RDOTs (Nitto NT1 iirc) for both, but heat cycling and rain make it tough. Otherwise I prefer Bridgestone. Currently on Michelin PS2, but won’t go back after these are done.


It's my commuter, I may think about an autocross or 2 with it, but doubtful it'll ever see a track.
If I did decide to pursue any track/extended auto-x with it, I'd source a set of the 18" sport pkg wheels as a 'track set'.




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Conti DWS 06 is a solid choice. I had them on my Subaru Legacy and now on my BRZ.

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We don't get much winter here in Houston (it's currently 54*)
Wet performance is a big deal, as is treadlife. I'm not going to spend >$1k every 15k miles, hence the switch to all-seasons.
I'm ok with a small drop in max performance (that rarely would even get used) for the benefit of longer treadlife.

I think we have something north of 30k on the Michelins from the OP on our Flex & they've got a good amount of tread left.


Then you will likely be quite happy with the Contis. I think I put 30k on them before selling the car with lots of life left.


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Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+


Had a couple sets of these on an Infiniti G35 and liked them. They most definitely aren't as grippy as the performance Pilots or P-zeros I've got on other cars, but are serviceable in colder, rainy weather than those.

They did suck royally in even the dusting of snow we'd get from time to time in DFW area, but in Houston you should be fine.

I was getting ~30K out of them, which was fine for me.



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Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+


Had a couple sets of these on an Infiniti G35 and liked them. They most definitely aren't as grippy as the performance Pilots or P-zeros I've got on other cars, but are serviceable in colder, rainy weather than those.

They did suck royally in even the dusting of snow we'd get from time to time in DFW area, but in Houston you should be fine.

I was getting ~30K out of them, which was fine for me.


I put these on our Flex based on the review from LBJ here. They've been great in all conditions so far, high heat in Houston to low 20s in Flagstaff, AZ.
Good grip in heavy rain (more common in Houston) as well.

But, of the 4 listed, they're also the priciest as just sub-$1k before installation.




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Assume that the milage warranty is halved on staggered fits for all of them.
 
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Two months thus far on the Michelin PS A3s that came on my '16 Ford Fiesta ST.
So far, they have been solid in some pretty heavy rain, and on twisty country roads.
The PS that were on my E46 BMW were incredibly noisy as they wore down; my hope is the A3s won't be like that.
 
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high performance and 'all season' are mutually exclusive

and 'all season' become 'three season' after the first season and performance goes downhill from there

if you want high performance, then get a tire for precisely that

anything else will give you 'ok performance'



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Per Consumer Reports...

Ultra Performance All Season



Performance All Season:

 
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I was happy with the Conti Extreme DWS as a part-time street tire and a part-time track tire on my '03 Corvette.
 
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Now you could do like I do and go with the best of summer tire. Here are Consumer Reports picks I just downloaded for you today:



and then purchase an extra set of wheels and go with the best of winter:

 
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Look at the Nokian ZLine tires. I've read favorable reviews.
 
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high performance and 'all season' are mutually exclusive

and 'all season' become 'three season' after the first season and performance goes downhill from there

if you want high performance, then get a tire for precisely that

anything else will give you 'ok performance'


I realize that a 'performance' all season is a step down from just about any level performance summer tire.
But, a UTQG 280 just wears too quickly for me & I'd rather get the best performance A/S without having to deal with the rapid wear the Contis had.

At the end of the day, it's a commuter that sees mostly highway miles & is unlikely to get pushed hard enough to merit a quickly wearing Summer Performance tire.




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Now you could do like I do and go with the best of summer tire. Here are Consumer Reports picks I just downloaded for you today:



and then purchase an extra set of wheels and go with the best of winter:



Not enough winter here to merit a 2nd set of wheels & dedicated winter tires.
Only reason I'd invest in a 2nd set would be for fun (Auto-x & HPDE).




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Another vote for the Contis. I had them on my BMW after ditching the runflats. I plan on doing it again.



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