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How do you satisfy your guests that want WELL DONE Roast Beef?

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December 24, 2019, 02:16 PM
Butch 2340
How do you satisfy your guests that want WELL DONE Roast Beef?
My sister won't eat any beef that's not brown/gray in color. I cut the end piece off and nuke it for about 45 seconds everyone is happy.


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December 24, 2019, 02:17 PM
rburg
OK, I'd like to add the nonsense about cutting a steak with a fork. In all these years I've never seen that or been able to. Never, even once. Ever wonder why even the better restaurants set places with knives, forks, and spoons? Those who say they can cut their steak with a fork probably haven't ever been to a better restaurant. Or tried to cut a steak with a fork. They're just repeating what they've heard others say. Try it sometime, you'll fail miserably.


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December 24, 2019, 02:23 PM
Nismo
Before serving, call out for those well-done'ers to determine how much meat to set aside.

leave the oven on and those who want well done,give them the ends and throw their slices in the oven for a few minutes.
December 24, 2019, 02:43 PM
NavyGuy
While I don't like tough overcook beef I don't like running blood. Med-rare to med is my preference. Nice and pink but warm and no running blood. As to how you satisfy personal preferences that vary from near raw to shoe leather can be a problem if you have guests that range form the near raw to extra well done. Thankfully most people don't fall into those extremes. Seams most like it just past pink (well done) to pink with a little running blood. Most of this can be accommodated by simply resting a bit longer under foil, or a quick zap in the MW.

Now pork... I don't care what they say about how safe it is to have rare pork, I just can't get my head around that. Zero pink and absolutely no blood on any cut of pork for me. Mock me if you will but I like a little "chew" with my pork and that's how I've always had it and I'm not changing now, trichinosis or not.



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December 24, 2019, 03:02 PM
MikeNH
I'm one of the horrible people who likes meat well done. We cook it medium and then toss a chunk in the toaster oven set to broil for a few minutes. Worked for decades so far.
December 24, 2019, 03:11 PM
9mmepiphany
quote:
Originally posted by rburg:
OK, I'd like to add the nonsense about cutting a steak with a fork. In all these years I've never seen that or been able to. Never, even once.
...Try it sometime, you'll fail miserably.

A properly cooked steak can't be cut with a fork because it should have a crust on it.

However, a nice piece of A5 Wagyu can be cut with a fork. Just the heat of your finger touching it will cause it to start melting. Placing a piece on your tongue will cause it to literally melt in your mouth




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December 24, 2019, 03:37 PM
nhracecraft
quote:
Originally posted by HayesGreener:
I once cooked a large brisket low and slow for 16 hours and after it was sliced one of my guests was poking around at the platter looking for "the well done" part. I think what he was after was burned ends so I dug that out of the scrap pan and he was happy once he poured gravy on it so he could chew it.

All of our meat is cooked on the smoker. I cut the portions off for those who want well done meat, whether roasts or burgers or steaks, and leave it on the grate while the medium rare is resting. I found that two additional minutes per side at 425 degrees will turn a nice medium rare into a medium well done.

I grew up on a farm with a feed lot where we raised USDA Prime beef. My Mom was of the old school and would cook a prime steak to the consistency of shoe leather. They had been taught in the early part of the 20th century to cook everything, especially pork and poultry, well done as a food safety measure. Once I learned about medium rare beef I never turned back. I have found that the preference for the doneness of meat is as much cultural as anything. To each his own, bon apetite' and Merry Christmas!


quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
Short version:
  • I agree with the other posters that you should make a good faith effort to cook beef to guest's desired doneness and not try to force your preferences on guests.
  • I also agree with the other posters who say cook the roast to desired doneness on the low end (e.g. medium-rare) and then use grill or skillet to sear slices to well done.

    Long version:
    I've been reverse searing steaks for years, but all of my guests have always liked medium-rare like me. I smoke on BGE at 225 until they're approx 121 internally and then sear until 131 internally in a sautee pan that has been preheated to 400F.

    Most of 2019, I've been seeing a gal who likes medium-well steaks and it took a little experimenting to get it right. All of this is with Prime Grade NY Strip that are 12 to 16 oz:
  • first tried searing hers longer. Took way too long to go from 121 to 145.
  • second tried putting hers on the BGE 20 minutes early. My steak nearly caught up (I suspect hers hit the "stall" temperature which allowed mine to catch up) and hers still took way too long to go from 121 to 145.
  • third tried cutting hers into 3 pieces. I pulled her steak pieces and my steak when mine hit 121. Mine still seared to 131 faster than hers seared to 145. However, I was close.
  • all subsequent times. Cut hers into 3 pieces, place hers over the openings in the BGE's platesetter (ceramic insert for indirect grilling/smoking between fire and cooking grate), place mine dead center over the placesetter, and pulled all steak when mine hit 121. Her steak pieces seared to 145 at almost the same time mine sears to 131. Her steak is still juicy and tasty, but it's not as good as mine. In other words, with a little practice and skill you can make good but not great medium-well steaks.

    If I were to cook us either a lean roast (e.g. sirloin roast) or fattier roast (e.g. prime rib) I'd still go for low-n-slow on the BGE. My skillets' coatings are oven safe to 400F and have removable silicone protectors over the handles so I'd preheat a skillet in 400F oven while the roast was on the BGE. Once the roast hits 128 to 130, I'd pull it and slice off enough for her dinner and foil tent the rest of the roast. I'd put the preheated skillet on a burner, spray skillet with my high heat avocado oil spray, and sear her slices until 145. I'd plate hers, slice a slab of the medium-rare for me, and serve dinner. We'd likely both be happy.

  • You two Gentlemen are obviously, well Gentlemen! Putting in the extra effort to please your guests, so that they enjoy their meal, and their visit, which is why you invited them over in the first place! It's apparent that you are both superior hosts....Surely your friendship and hospitality are cherished by your friends & guests. Cool

    I say Bravo, and Merry Christmas! Wink


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    December 24, 2019, 04:13 PM
    fpuhan
    I send them out to Golden Corral.




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    December 24, 2019, 05:51 PM
    midwest guy
    quote:
    Originally posted by oddball:
    Years ago, my wife and I kinda gave up on serving a beef roast to a group, which we have done multiple times in the past. Mainly prime rib, and a few filet/tenderloin roasts. I consider myself a good cook, friends love my food, and I enjoy cooking for a group, but roasts are a big hassle. More than any other food, folks are very particular about their steaks/slices of roast.

    Tomorrow, we are having prime filet steaks, each grilled to the person's preference. Far easier, less stress, and everyone gets a slab to their liking.
    .

    I do the same with filet steaks, my group ranges from rare to well done. Timing the steaks to coincide with the crab leg boil can be a little trickier. I usually have 2 grills going simultaneously for the steaks and 2 propane turkey boilers going for the crab legs. Merry Christmas
    December 24, 2019, 06:01 PM
    ShneaSIG
    I had a hot pan on the stove. For my guests who wanted their cut cooked a bit more, I gave them end slices and seared it in the pan with about a tablespoon of butter and a dash of salt and pepper. They seemed pleased.


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    December 24, 2019, 06:05 PM
    SevenPlusOne
    You guys cook meat before you eat it?



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    December 24, 2019, 06:50 PM
    jhe888
    Burn some hamburger patties. They won't know the difference.




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    December 24, 2019, 06:55 PM
    KevinCW
    In all seriousness, I just cook it more after slicing it, or if individual cuts cook them longer.

    And those that want it overdone I will probably change the menu next time I entertain them so as to not waste an expensive cut of meat on them.





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    December 24, 2019, 07:00 PM
    jimmy123x
    quote:
    Originally posted by Skins2881:
    quote:
    Originally posted by MNSIG:
    You could probably cut a few slices off the ends when you are down to about 30 minutes and let them cook alongside the rest of the roast. Exposing the thin slices on both sides would get them to well done pretty quickly.


    This will result in a dried out and ruined roast. Don't do this.

    Cook as normal and then destroy only the slices that need to be well done. Either a grill or a hot skillet can be used.


    This, but they want well done, I'd just throw theirs in the microwave!!!! If you turn the oven up to the broil setting after pulling the entire roast, then just throw their slices back in the oven for a few minutes should get them well done.

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    December 24, 2019, 11:00 PM
    SeaCliff
    Ok, I'm one.
    Last week took friend to a nice dinner and I ordered my Fillet Mignon butterflied and well done. Yummy thou.
    December 25, 2019, 03:25 AM
    flashguy
    quote:
    Originally posted by KevinCW:
    And those that want it overdone I will probably change the menu next time I entertain them so as to not waste an expensive cut of meat on them.
    You are being a food snob. Those of us who prefer our meat well done do not consider it "overdone"--that is merely your opinion (along with many other food snobs). Smile

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    December 25, 2019, 07:03 AM
    P210
    Give them fruit while theirs stays in the oven longer as everyone else is being served if you really care. I don’t encourage needy guests myself.
    December 25, 2019, 08:16 AM
    Blume9mm
    I have a lot of comments about the original post as well as some of the replies but will reframe.. and here is why...

    this may freak some of you out...

    Even though I like my beef rare.... I usually before starting to cook it eat some of it raw... been doing this for over 45 years..
    Y'all don't know what you are missing.


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    December 25, 2019, 08:22 AM
    fpuhan
    quote:
    Originally posted by Blume9mm:
    Even though I like my beef rare.... I usually before starting to cook it eat some of it raw... been doing this for over 45 years..
    Y'all don't know what you are missing.


    Ah, Steak Tartare, one of my favorites! Or Carpaccio, a variation on the theme.

    For years, you couldn't get this in a restaurant because of "health regulations." Now, as long as health inspectors approve the preparation area and utensils... (or, make it yourself, like I do).




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    December 25, 2019, 08:43 AM
    arcwelder
    I like sushi, raw beef done right is delicious.

    However, if you're going to cook it, you need to do more than warm it, and you should stop before time and temperature begin destroying it. Sous vide, smoking, crock pots, lots of ways to go low and slow.

    When you venture into "well done" territory and beyond.. To each his own I suppose. It seems to me that such is somewhere between mental illness and a war crime, at best you're disrespecting the animal who gave its life for you.


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