The task: keeping a fire wood bundle together with natural fiber rope.
12 or 15 pieces of split fire wood weighing 16 pounds total.
To put on display for sale.
Plastic wrap not an option nor plastic bags.
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June 17, 2022, 07:59 AM
snwghst
Truckers hitch
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June 17, 2022, 08:04 AM
sigfreund
When tying something like that together, I first use a series of half hitches along the length of the bundle, but most important is to finish off with the “parcel bend” knot (extremely useful for other purposes as well):
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June 17, 2022, 08:18 AM
smlsig
Why not use a simple square knot? Are you looking for functional or decorative like a present?
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June 17, 2022, 08:23 AM
Aglifter
Probably absurd in selling firewood, but perhaps a Turks head/some other decorative knot as a distinguishing attribute?
June 17, 2022, 08:29 AM
trapper189
June 17, 2022, 08:35 AM
bendable
Function only, pretty not essential.
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June 17, 2022, 08:45 AM
ensigmatic
A couple lengths, about 1/3 in from each end, square (aka: reef) knots. Easy, fast, and functional.
Understand the difference between a square/reef knot and a granny knot--the latter of which a double-slipped version is how most people tie their shoes and is not stable. (Which is why their shoes don't stay tied.)
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June 17, 2022, 09:24 AM
Tailhook 84
quote:
Originally posted by snwghst: Truckers hitch
Concur, and using a Bowline knot on one end so the entire rope can be untied and used again.
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June 17, 2022, 09:25 AM
architect
The "Constrictor Knot" is ideal for this purpose. It consists of a half hitch with an additional bend over the hitch that holds it in place. Tying it requires two loops around the bundle.
I have also used a bowline on the end of the cord and loop the free end through in a rudimentary pulley arrangement. This aids in getting things nice and tight, but puts a lot of strain on the cord due to the two 180 degree bends where the loop bight and free end cross.
A Turk's head would indeed be very attractive, but tying a sizable TH takes a lot of time. The TH's I tied on the ends of my bike handle bars (17 x 8 IIRC) took 40 hours each to tie, double and tighten. This was just to cover the area from the brakes to the end. There are much simpler sennets (e.g. the common braid) that will look almost as decorative, but require far less work.
June 17, 2022, 09:37 AM
Perception
One piece of rope with a clove hitch on each end of the bundle would keep it together and serve as a carry handle.
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June 17, 2022, 03:44 PM
Oaklane
Bowline on one end so you can draw it tight then a couple half hitches…
June 17, 2022, 04:00 PM
drill sgt
"Hatchet Knot"...... requires the use of a "hatchet" to release.... Chuckle / Chuckle........... drill sgt.
June 17, 2022, 10:29 PM
slosig
Love bowlines, use them all the time. Use a bowline on the end and a trucker’s hitch to tie down the tarp around the hay stack, but I wouldn’t get that fancy for bundles to sell. Twine tied with square knots should do fine.
June 18, 2022, 05:13 AM
henryaz
quote:
Originally posted by slosig: Love bowlines, use them all the time.
Same here. Every piece of rope that I own has a bowline on one end.
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June 18, 2022, 08:15 AM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by Perception: One piece of rope with a clove hitch on each end of the bundle would keep it together and serve as a carry handle.
I like this suggestion
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June 18, 2022, 09:17 AM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by drill sgt: "Hatchet Knot"...... requires the use of a "hatchet" to release.... Chuckle / Chuckle........... drill sgt.
Aka: "If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot"
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June 18, 2022, 11:02 AM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by henryaz: Every piece of rope that I own has a bowline on one end.
May I ask why? I like a bowline and can tie one blindfolded with one hand, but really only use it to tie a line around something. I use a figure eight if I want a nonslip loop at the end of a line. If I want to tie a line to something and don’t want to slip, I use a clove hitch followed by two half hitches. Tying a hammock to a tree for example.
June 18, 2022, 11:05 AM
c1steve
Two half hitches. First to tighten the bundle, second to keep the knot tight.
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June 19, 2022, 05:36 AM
henryaz
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by henryaz: Every piece of rope that I own has a bowline on one end.
May I ask why?
First, I'm not that good [can tie one blindfolded with one hand]. Makes it very easy to start a tie down or bind, then finish the other end with a variety of knots, like clove hitches, constrictor knots, etc. Almost all of my use is binding or tying down a load (same as tying around something). I also use square knots quite a bit.
