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Did we ever find out if he was the pilot, or was it the other person on the plane? So many unanswered questions.
Kirby did hold a pilot certificate, but I have not been able to find out anything about the other occupant, nor have I been able to find out who was acting as PIC (Pilot In Command) for that flight.



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Kirby was indeed the pilot of the crashed plane, according to the Bee.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/lo...rticle242118886.html

Kirby, a urologist and Auburn city councilman since 2009, was the pilot of the plane that crashed shortly after 11 a.m. A passenger in the plane suffered minor injuries and was transported to a hospital, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.


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A passenger in the plane suffered minor injuries


Oh, so someone lived to tell the story. Maybe we'll get more details after all. I mean, about the wasted plane. The guy who referred to me as a KKK member can go straight to hell.


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Perhaps callous and too soon. But I'm sick of the democratic left. So this brings to mind the phrase 'stupid should hurt'.




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Perhaps callous and too soon. But I'm sick of the democratic left. So this brings to mind the phrase 'stupid should hurt'.


In this case it hurts permanently. Big Grin


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The guy who referred to me as a KKK member can go straight to hell.
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The guy who referred to me as a KKK member can go straight to hell.
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He made social media posts comparing Trump supporters to members of the Ku Klux Klan.

I am a 100% Trump supporter... therefore...

Ok, he compared me to the KKK, little difference.


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The guy who referred to me as a KKK member can go straight to hell.
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He made social media posts comparing Trump supporters to members of the Ku Klux Klan.

I am a 100% Trump supporter... therefore...

Ok, he compared me to the KKK, little difference.
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No. Just forget about it, please.
 
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No. Just forget about it, please.
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I have heard the "passenger" was a flight instructor. Also that the mayor's cheese has been sliding off his cracker the last couple of years...which may or may not explain his stupid behavior or even the plane crash itself.
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I have heard the "passenger" was a flight instructor. Also that the mayor's cheese has been sliding off his cracker the last couple of years...which may or may not explain his stupid behavior or even the plane crash itself.
OZ


I have worked with a few military and commercial pilots, one a flight instructor and wildfire pilot. I would be a little curious re a flight instructor with a student pilot at age 72.




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The flight instructor could have been giving a flight review.....or mandated remedial training? Something is odd I believe. Haven't heard a peep from the survivor.
I have friends that operate out of that airport, one being a flight instructor herself.
I'll get the gossip soon.
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I have heard the "passenger" was a flight instructor. Also that the mayor's cheese has been sliding off his cracker the last couple of years...which may or may not explain his stupid behavior or even the plane crash itself.
OZ
I have worked with a few military and commercial pilots, one a flight instructor and wildfire pilot. I would be a little curious re a flight instructor with a student pilot at age 72.
There are any number of possibilities:
  • There is a regulatory requirement for a pilot to complete a Flight Review at least once during each 24 calendar month period. This can be done with a flight instructor, or an examiner.

  • Many pilots participate in ongoing proficiency training, such as the FAA's "Wings" program, which involves ongoing training with a flight instructor.

  • A private pilot might seek adding an instrument rating to his (her) pilot certificate, or a private pilot might want to qualify for a commercial certificate. These activities require instruction by a flight instructor.

  • The flight instructor might have just been a friend, flying to another airprt for the "hundred dollar hamburger" (five bucks for the burger, and ninety-five for the gas that you burn to get there).
An instructor on board for a flight is nothing unusual, and not a cause for raised eyebrows.



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Originally posted by V-Tail:....An instructor on board for a flight is nothing unusual, and not a cause for raised eyebrows.


I wasn't questioning an instructor being on the plane.

I worked with a firm connected to airborne surveillance, bumped shoulders with a variety of pilots from military, commercial, wildfire settings, including flight instructors. They all concurred there is good reason commercial pilots retire at 65 (I believe military pilots retire younger). Remembering their chats and personal experiences they shared, I was questioning the wisdom of a 72 yr old piloting a plane.




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Oh, what a shame.... Roll Eyes


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I was questioning the wisdom of a 72 yr old piloting a plane.
Bob Hoover flew airshows until the age of 77. There are plenty of older pilots, but it is a case by case basis in the private world.


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