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Fourth line skater |
It doesn't matter if the driver did it intentionally. He struck the rider and left the scene. That's called hit and run. I'm glad the cyclist is okay. In that situation I would have gone single file. I usually insist on roads with a decent shoulder. _________________________ OH, Bonnie McMurray! | |||
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I rather like your choice of punishment, hope the bastard (or bitch) bleeds for a month and then gets herpes, hep C, Hep B, HIV, and a boatload of genital warts. I don't care if a bicyclist is blocking the road, if it pisses you off sound your horn until his ears ring. Flat out someone being an ass is not justification for running him over. I've stopped counting. | |||
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Corgis Rock |
Would really like to see the entire video. The two are talking, then there's a horn and the truck passes. Wonder how many cars were behind them? Then "bicyclists are allowed to use the full lane of traffic to ride in when necessary. Federal regulations require bicyclists to ride single file, and riders are encouraged to move to the right to allow for vehicles to pass," No excuse for running someone down but how did this develop? “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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"Member" |
Interesting. I didn't see anything obvious in regards to intent. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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We gonna get some oojima in this house! |
Exactly. I'm a road cyclist and admit that a lot of cyclists interpret right of way as this is my road. Cyclists should single file on the right third of the lane when there is traffic. It allows motorists to pass and still allow 3' from cyclist. Tandem riders with traffic behind are asses. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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You got would have to be a complete idiot to intentionally damage your own car, a nice car, and potentially kill someone just because you don't like that they are sharing the roadway. Collecting dust. | |||
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Not sure where in Virginia you live, but a lot of places around my parts ban or frown upon cycling on sidewalks. Sure you have rails to trails paths that are asphalted and fairly wide, but with most sidewalks vs. roads, it comes down to difference in speed. On a bike doing 15-20 mph, I'm moving up to 7 times the speed of a pedestrian doing around 3 mph. If I hit a kid that didn't think 180 lbs of bike + rider was coming around the corner, it's going to be a really bad day for the kid. And if you want a comparison we can all get on board with, I'm carrying about 3000 joules of energy, or about the same as a 7.62 x 51mm round I'd much rather risk my life riding on the road than risk a pedestrian's or child's life on the sidewalk. __________________________________ An operator is someone who picks up the phone when I dial 0. | |||
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10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Some people are mentally unbalanced with anger issues. Some of those people drive cars. Some are not excessively tolerant of bicyclists. These drivers are cocooned in thousand of pounds of steel. Bicyclists are not. Given the above, it would appear unwise to torment possibly crazy, angry people by blocking the whole lane needlessly. Deserving death? No. But deserves got nothing to do with it. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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I Am The Walrus |
Yep, some cyclists are just assholes. Not saying they deserve to get hit but when you take up the road like that, someone hitting you intentionally or accidentally seems to be a consequence they should be prepared to face.
I ride frequently and I do not ride on the street unless it's in a residential neighborhood. I typically just ride the many trails we have around here, though. I'm not as concerned with someone intentionally hitting me as much as I'm concerned about some idiot busy texting instead of paying attention to the road just to swerve and wipe me out. _____________ | |||
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I am a cyclist too and I agree with you. Riding tandem is illegal in many places and just incredibly stupid and arrogant. . . | |||
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Ignored facts still exist |
The driver is like, "oh shit, they had a go-pro......" . | |||
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On a rural 2 lane road, tractors, busses,pets, bicyclists are all going to be there. Wait for a good spot, pass and go on. No live and let live with this driver. | |||
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A Grateful American |
I was reading the thread form my tablet, and only saw the video, but none if the reporting. I have seen situations where it takes a few more seconds than the 7 seconds after the collision before someone can safely stop, hence, my asking/posing my reply. Given charges and other information, and if the person deliberately hit the cyclist, and also failed to stop, then fry 'em. I was only asking as I did not have any other information, and the "news" nowadays seems intent on gaining "hits", rather than reporting facts, and many people seem to have the same agenda when posting the videos they record. Sad, that so many use and abuse situations to further an agenda. I ask questions because I want the truth. And no matter what, the truth is what I want to base my "buttwhipping" or "defending" upon the facts. Even if it means "my team" loses. #tiredoffakenews "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Ammoholic |
As far as I know, it's not illegal to ride bike on sidewalks where I live. Could be wrong? When on a sidewalk I give pedestrians the right of way, and don't ride like a bat out of hell. I ride a mountain bike to W&OD to trail (1.1 mi from my house). I also stop at those weird red octagon shaped things with "STOP" written on them at the intersection of roads. I wish those signs weren't so ambiguous so others knew what to do when they approached them. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Bodhisattva |
I used to ride that same part of the Trace 3-4 times a week. There is no shoulder on any part of it. People get up to all kind of stupid shit messing with cyclists - passing way too close (when unnecessary), throwing shit, etc. The speed limit on that section is 40MPH. But too many cyclists try to play "I own the road" on a hilly, curvy 2 lane blacktop that, while it IS a scenic parkway, is also the best way to get from A to B for a LOT of people and does get a fair bit of traffic at times. Laws of physics will always trump traffic laws and militant bicyclists. The hit looked intentional to me. There was no reason for the volvo not to be in the left lane, you can clearly see there is no oncoming traffic and he doesnt even look to have let off the gas when he hit the bicycle. I hope they throw the book at him. | |||
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It varies by city and county as far as I understand. I believe Arlington, for example, really discourages it. Regarding the video, any single lane road that's 45 mph or greater without a shoulder is a deathtrap for cyclists. I do my best to avoid them, and never ride tandem when I have no choice. That's just self-preservation. And so what if they catch and convict the driver? The cyclist is injured and may never fully recover and the bike is trashed resulting in thousands of dollars in damage. Of course the driver is at fault for hitting the cyclist but this is a classic case of "risk miscalculation" or more colloquially, "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Don't walk around the bad part of town after dark even if you have a CCW and a gun, don't talk on your cell phone while you drive even if it is legal or you have a hands-free setup, and don't ride on fast, windy roads with no shoulder even if you technically have the right to do so. The odds do catch up sooner or later. __________________________________ An operator is someone who picks up the phone when I dial 0. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Way too much logic and making sense there ^^^ I ride yet hate cyclists, go figure. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I don't want the bicylist getting hit but why were they riding side by side or at least not single file on a single lane road? "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Seeker of Clarity |
Unreal. Honestly though, those guys didn't seem the slightest bit concerned for their responsibility to be civil. and I say that AS a cyclist. When we ride, if we so much as "hear" tires coming, we yell car back, and we single file tight on the white line. We make it easy to coexist with cars, because we ride the same areas over and over. We need to be civil and friendly. It's best for everyone. We also ride VERY early in rural areas. We do this so we're not out in any traffic to speak of. Sometimes go hours without a car. This was a terrible act. And it was absolutely wrong. But they're not innocent here either. These guys ignored the cars, and were at least rude, if not something more,.. like passive-agressive pricks. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I swear to God. Some of you guys will manage to find some way to wedge politics into to any thread!! Cut it out | |||
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