It doesn't matter if the driver did it intentionally. He struck the rider and left the scene. That's called hit and run. I'm glad the cyclist is okay. In that situation I would have gone single file. I usually insist on roads with a decent shoulder.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
I bet the Volvo driving asshole supported Hillary.

The legal system needs to sodomize him until he thinks he's been fucked by a freight train.

I rather like your choice of punishment, hope the bastard (or bitch) bleeds for a month and then gets herpes, hep C, Hep B, HIV, and a boatload of genital warts.

I don't care if a bicyclist is blocking the road, if it pisses you off sound your horn until his ears ring. Flat out someone being an ass is not justification for running him over.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Here's a news story about the video.

I hope the guy gets years in jail for that the rider is insanely lucky. That is one of many reasons I don't ride in the road. I don't care if it's "allowed", I'm not risking my life.

Would really like to see the entire video. The two are talking, then there's a horn and the truck passes. Wonder how many cars were behind them? Then "bicyclists are allowed to use the full lane of traffic to ride in when necessary. Federal regulations require bicyclists to ride single file, and riders are encouraged to move to the right to allow for vehicles to pass," No excuse for running someone down but how did this develop?

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Originally posted by brminpin:
This guy obviously did this on purpose

Interesting. I didn't see anything obvious in regards to intent.

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Originally posted by Icabod:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Here's a news story about the video.

I hope the guy gets years in jail for that the rider is insanely lucky. That is one of many reasons I don't ride in the road. I don't care if it's "allowed", I'm not risking my life.

Would really like to see the entire video. The two are talking, then there's a horn and the truck passes. Wonder how many cars were behind them? Then "bicyclists are allowed to use the full lane of traffic to ride in when necessary. Federal regulations require bicyclists to ride single file, and riders are encouraged to move to the right to allow for vehicles to pass," No excuse for running someone down but how did this develop?

Exactly. I'm a road cyclist and admit that a lot of cyclists interpret right of way as this is my road. Cyclists should single file on the right third of the lane when there is traffic. It allows motorists to pass and still allow 3' from cyclist. Tandem riders with traffic behind are asses.

You got would have to be a complete idiot to intentionally damage your own car, a nice car, and potentially kill someone just because you don't like that they are sharing the roadway.

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Originally posted by smithnsig:

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Originally posted by RobLew:
Also a cyclist.

Should the cyclist have been blocking the road - no.

Did that justify assault w/ a deadly weapon/attempted murder - also no.

I hope they throw the book at the driver.

That's a little much to call it attempted murder, or even assault. Looks more like he misjudged it. He should have stopped. Get him for fleeing the scene.

There is a d***head cycling group around here that does it pretty regular. They asked me to ride with them. I politely declined.

Got a shitload of bike riders around here that ride 2&3 abreast on the highways. Speed limit on one is 55, another in our neighborhood is posted at 50.

I ride a bike for exercise, I do NOT ride on the road. They have miles of asphalted bike and running trails, at least 5 feet wide wherever I have ridden.

How about charges against the bike rider?

Glad the rider was not hurt, but his conduct did not assure him that nothing would happen.

Not sure where in Virginia you live, but a lot of places around my parts ban or frown upon cycling on sidewalks. Sure you have rails to trails paths that are asphalted and fairly wide, but with most sidewalks vs. roads, it comes down to difference in speed.

On a bike doing 15-20 mph, I'm moving up to 7 times the speed of a pedestrian doing around 3 mph. If I hit a kid that didn't think 180 lbs of bike + rider was coming around the corner, it's going to be a really bad day for the kid. And if you want a comparison we can all get on board with, I'm carrying about 3000 joules of energy, or about the same as a 7.62 x 51mm round

I'd much rather risk my life riding on the road than risk a pedestrian's or child's life on the sidewalk.

Some people are mentally unbalanced with anger issues. Some of those people drive cars. Some are not excessively tolerant of bicyclists. These drivers are cocooned in thousand of pounds of steel. Bicyclists are not.

Given the above, it would appear unwise to torment possibly crazy, angry people by blocking the whole lane needlessly.

Deserving death? No. But deserves got nothing to do with it.

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Originally posted by smithnsig:
I'm a cyclist. Guy shouldn't have been hit but tandem riding with a car behind on a double yellow line while uphill is being an ass.

Yep, some cyclists are just assholes. Not saying they deserve to get hit but when you take up the road like that, someone hitting you intentionally or accidentally seems to be a consequence they should be prepared to face.

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Originally posted by MikeGLI:
I don't know but I'd like to know why the fuck they didn't stop afterwards. I ride a lot, 3-4 times a week and this type of nonsense scares the shit out of me.

I ride frequently and I do not ride on the street unless it's in a residential neighborhood. I typically just ride the many trails we have around here, though.

I'm not as concerned with someone intentionally hitting me as much as I'm concerned about some idiot busy texting instead of paying attention to the road just to swerve and wipe me out.

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Originally posted by smithnsig:
I'm a cyclist. Guy shouldn't have been hit but tandem riding with a car behind on a double yellow line while uphill is being an ass.

I am a cyclist too and I agree with you. Riding tandem is illegal in many places and just incredibly stupid and arrogant.



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The driver is like, "oh shit, they had a go-pro......"

On a rural 2 lane road, tractors, busses,pets, bicyclists are all going to be there. Wait for a good spot, pass and go on. No live and let live with this driver.

I was reading the thread form my tablet, and only saw the video, but none if the reporting.

I have seen situations where it takes a few more seconds than the 7 seconds after the collision before someone can safely stop, hence, my asking/posing my reply.

Given charges and other information, and if the person deliberately hit the cyclist, and also failed to stop, then fry 'em.

I was only asking as I did not have any other information, and the "news" nowadays seems intent on gaining "hits", rather than reporting facts, and many people seem to have the same agenda when posting the videos they record.

Sad, that so many use and abuse situations to further an agenda.

I ask questions because I want the truth. And no matter what, the truth is what I want to base my "buttwhipping" or "defending" upon the facts. Even if it means "my team" loses.

#tiredoffakenews

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Originally posted by caneau:

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Originally posted by smithnsig:

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Originally posted by RobLew:
Also a cyclist.

Should the cyclist have been blocking the road - no.

Did that justify assault w/ a deadly weapon/attempted murder - also no.

I hope they throw the book at the driver.

That's a little much to call it attempted murder, or even assault. Looks more like he misjudged it. He should have stopped. Get him for fleeing the scene.

There is a d***head cycling group around here that does it pretty regular. They asked me to ride with them. I politely declined.

Got a shitload of bike riders around here that ride 2&3 abreast on the highways. Speed limit on one is 55, another in our neighborhood is posted at 50.

I ride a bike for exercise, I do NOT ride on the road. They have miles of asphalted bike and running trails, at least 5 feet wide wherever I have ridden.

How about charges against the bike rider?

Glad the rider was not hurt, but his conduct did not assure him that nothing would happen.

Not sure where in Virginia you live, but a lot of places around my parts ban or frown upon cycling on sidewalks. Sure you have rails to trails paths that are asphalted and fairly wide, but with most sidewalks vs. roads, it comes down to difference in speed.

On a bike doing 15-20 mph, I'm moving up to 7 times the speed of a pedestrian doing around 3 mph. If I hit a kid that didn't think 180 lbs of bike + rider was coming around the corner, it's going to be a really bad day for the kid. And if you want a comparison we can all get on board with, I'm carrying about 3000 joules of energy, or about the same as a 7.62 x 51mm round

I'd much rather risk my life riding on the road than risk a pedestrian's or child's life on the sidewalk.

As far as I know, it's not illegal to ride bike on sidewalks where I live. Could be wrong? When on a sidewalk I give pedestrians the right of way, and don't ride like a bat out of hell. I ride a mountain bike to W&OD to trail (1.1 mi from my house). I also stop at those weird red octagon shaped things with "STOP" written on them at the intersection of roads. I wish those signs weren't so ambiguous so others knew what to do when they approached them.

I used to ride that same part of the Trace 3-4 times a week. There is no shoulder on any part of it. People get up to all kind of stupid shit messing with cyclists - passing way too close (when unnecessary), throwing shit, etc. The speed limit on that section is 40MPH.

But too many cyclists try to play "I own the road" on a hilly, curvy 2 lane blacktop that, while it IS a scenic parkway, is also the best way to get from A to B for a LOT of people and does get a fair bit of traffic at times. Laws of physics will always trump traffic laws and militant bicyclists.

The hit looked intentional to me. There was no reason for the volvo not to be in the left lane, you can clearly see there is no oncoming traffic and he doesnt even look to have let off the gas when he hit the bicycle. I hope they throw the book at him.

It varies by city and county as far as I understand. I believe Arlington, for example, really discourages it.

Regarding the video, any single lane road that's 45 mph or greater without a shoulder is a deathtrap for cyclists. I do my best to avoid them, and never ride tandem when I have no choice. That's just self-preservation.

And so what if they catch and convict the driver? The cyclist is injured and may never fully recover and the bike is trashed resulting in thousands of dollars in damage. Of course the driver is at fault for hitting the cyclist but this is a classic case of "risk miscalculation" or more colloquially, "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Don't walk around the bad part of town after dark even if you have a CCW and a gun, don't talk on your cell phone while you drive even if it is legal or you have a hands-free setup, and don't ride on fast, windy roads with no shoulder even if you technically have the right to do so. The odds do catch up sooner or later.

Way too much logic and making sense there ^^^

I ride yet hate cyclists, go figure.

I don't want the bicylist getting hit but why were they riding side by side or at least not single file on a single lane road?

Unreal. Honestly though, those guys didn't seem the slightest bit concerned for their responsibility to be civil. and I say that AS a cyclist. When we ride, if we so much as "hear" tires coming, we yell car back, and we single file tight on the white line. We make it easy to coexist with cars, because we ride the same areas over and over. We need to be civil and friendly. It's best for everyone.

We also ride VERY early in rural areas. We do this so we're not out in any traffic to speak of. Sometimes go hours without a car.

This was a terrible act. And it was absolutely wrong. But they're not innocent here either. These guys ignored the cars, and were at least rude, if not something more,.. like passive-agressive pricks.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
I bet the Volvo driving asshole supported Hillary.

I swear to God. Some of you guys will manage to find some way to wedge politics into to any thread!!

Cut it out