Cellular Phone Must Haves

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September 16, 2018, 07:09 PM

Balzé Halzé

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
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Originally posted by jigray3:
I want it to be a good phone. Most phones are remarkably bad at being phones.

I’d like my next cell phone to have something besides a rotary dial.

Why change?

https://play.google.com/store/...urel.oldrotarydialer

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September 19, 2018, 11:59 PM

joel9507

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Cellular Phone Must Haves

1) Excellent radio/antenna performance for use in weak signal areas
2) Zero crapware and zero carrier crippling of built in OS/device capabilities (yes, Verizon, I'm talking about you!)
3) see #1

Out here in the sticks, signal strength is hard to come by. I have friends with the latest and greatest Apple, Samsung etc. and they have difficulty here with dropped calls, calls that never ring their phones and go straight to voicemail, etc.

Some designers forget that these beasties are mini transmitters and receivers, first and foremost. RF antenna design is not for the faint of heart, but get that wrong, and you can't fix it with an app update or OS patch.

September 20, 2018, 01:37 AM

bigdeal

How do those here rate wireless charging as a priority? Most manufacturers seem to be placing a great deal of focus here and I couldn't give a damn about it given how slow it is. Give me wired fast charging all day every day over wireless.

September 20, 2018, 02:25 AM

911Boss

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
How do those here rate wireless charging as a priority? Most manufacturers seem to be placing a great deal of focus here and I couldn't give a damn about it given how slow it is. Give me wired fast charging all day every day over wireless.

Agreed, I thought it was a cool idea and bought a charger for my iPhone X. Now, less than a year later I don’t use it.

It limits your case choices, and if you wish to use a magnetic car mount the metal plate needed to hold to the mount defeats the wireless charging. Realistically it takes fraction of a second to plug/unplug a cord. I don’t think the “convenience” is worth the cost of the charger.

Also, as you said, wired charging is faster.

September 20, 2018, 02:32 AM

DMF

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
There have been a few threads out here recently discussing cellphones. After having read all the differing perspectives and opinions in those threads, I thought this topic might be an interesting discussion.

First off, this thread is NOT about any name brand or particular platform, so lets not slip to bashing particular products.

So here's the topic of this thread....What three (and only three) attributes are most important for you in a cellphone?

Here's mine.
1 - Big battery - Even if it makes the phone a bit thick.
2 - Speed - Both processor and modem.
3 - Value - Good mix of feature/functionality for a max price of $500.

So what are yours?

Based on what you want, especially item 3, you should check out:
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/best-cheap-phones/

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September 20, 2018, 10:50 AM

cparktd

Wireless charging. Will never go back!

September 20, 2018, 11:13 AM

Balzé Halzé

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Give me wired fast charging all day every day over wireless.

Indeed. I hate leaving my phone on a charger, wired or otherwise, so I love that i can plug my phone in and know it'll be fully charged in most times 30 minutes or less. My phone is on a charger less than an hour a day.

~Alan

September 20, 2018, 12:49 PM

cparktd

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Give me wired fast charging all day every day over wireless.

Indeed. I hate leaving my phone on a charger, wired or otherwise, so I love that i can plug my phone in and know it'll be fully charged in most times 30 minutes or less. My phone is on a charger less than an hour a day.

But you don't have to choose... mine will do both but I very rarely use wired. Batt last me all day 99% of the time, so I just drop it on the wireless charger on my bed side table at night.

September 20, 2018, 01:14 PM

Balzé Halzé

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Originally posted by cparktd:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Give me wired fast charging all day every day over wireless.

Indeed. I hate leaving my phone on a charger, wired or otherwise, so I love that i can plug my phone in and know it'll be fully charged in most times 30 minutes or less. My phone is on a charger less than an hour a day.

But you don't have to choose... mine will do both but I very rarely use wired. Batt last me all day 99% of the time, so I just drop it on the wireless charger on my bed side table at night.

But that's my point. I don't want to leave my phone charging all night. Over time that will cause "wear" or "damage" to your battery. In fact, I normally only charge to around 80%. But I suppose if you're getting a new phone every year or two, that point is moot.

But again, that's why these new fast chargers are awesome. I can plug in my phone in the evening and can be assured that it will reach its charge before I'm hopping into bed.

~Alan

September 20, 2018, 01:18 PM

YellowJacket

big screen, fast processor, takes good pictures.

really wanted to add "not apple" in there, as well...

I've never owned a phone that couldn't reliably make and take phone calls, so I don't really consider that when buying one.

September 20, 2018, 05:19 PM

46and2

I've no interest in Wireless Charging, myself. Cables work fine, thanks.

September 20, 2018, 07:18 PM

bigdeal

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
But again, that's why these new fast chargers are awesome. I can plug in my phone in the evening and can be assured that it will reach its charge before I'm hopping into bed.

Yep. I have DASH charging on my OnePlus that is arguably the fastest charging method out there, and is also a huge part of the reason I love my phone. If I forget to charge it overnight, I can toss it on the charger while I get ready in the morning and in 15-20 minutes I have 80%+ battery. It charges so fast I no longer worry about when to charge my phone.

September 20, 2018, 08:46 PM

cparktd

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

I don't want to leave my phone charging all night. Over time that will cause "wear" or "damage" to your battery.

Old wives tale, IMO, no longer relevant. Wife and I both keep our phones 3 to 4 years and both charge ALL night EVERY night, and neither of us have ever had a battery issue of any kind.

Honestly, I expect a really fast charger would do more damage than a slower one, partly due to the increased heat generated. But I did not stay inn a Holiday Inn last night so YMMV

September 20, 2018, 08:57 PM

Balzé Halzé

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Originally posted by cparktd:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

I don't want to leave my phone charging all night. Over time that will cause "wear" or "damage" to your battery.

Old wives tale...

No it's not. Your battery loses capacity over time and will experience wear or "damage" during every charge session. That's simply a fact.

Leaving the phone plugged in all night probably doesn't do it any more harm than someone who charges to 100% and then unplugs it, but my point was that I don't always charge to 100% (maybe only 3 to 4 times a month). As such, I don't like leaving the phone on a charger.

I'm probably nitpicking consider the time most people keep a phone, but my circumstances don't necessarily require me to have a fully charged phone in the morning. When I'm heading to the airport though or will be out all day, that's a different story.

~Alan

September 21, 2018, 09:43 AM

Vanwall

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
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Originally posted by cparktd:
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

I don't want to leave my phone charging all night. Over time that will cause "wear" or "damage" to your battery.

Old wives tale...

No it's not. Your battery loses capacity over time and will experience wear or "damage" during every charge session. That's simply a fact.

Leaving the phone plugged in all night probably doesn't do it any more harm than someone who charges to 100% and then unplugs it, but my point was that I don't always charge to 100% (maybe only 3 to 4 times a month). As such, I don't like leaving the phone on a charger.

I'm probably nitpicking consider the time most people keep a phone, but my circumstances don't necessarily require me to have a fully charged phone in the morning. When I'm heading to the airport though or will be out all day, that's a different story.

Based on my experience with RC car lipo batteries deep discharging batteries (below 20%) is worse than fast charging to 100% with proper charger.

I have a SE that is 2.5 years old, charged every night. iOS battery lists it at 92% of capacity.