Apparently no deal. Vance and team returning home. I'm guessing hell is about to come to breakfast.

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Trump announces a naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz

The U.S. president ordered the American Navy to block all vessels in the strait and seize ships that paid “protection money" to Iran. “The Iranians are carrying out global extortion."

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/425365

Good! I’ve absolutely had enough of this shit, send them back to the Stone Age! FAFO.

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Originally posted by braillediver:

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Trump announces a naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz

The U.S. president ordered the American Navy to block all vessels in the strait and seize ships that paid “protection money" to Iran. “The Iranians are carrying out global extortion."

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/425365

That is absolutely glorious.

Iran: “We have leverage and you can’t do anything about it.”

Trump, locks door:

“Now youse can’t leave”

Glorious.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:

That is absolutely glorious.

Iran: “We have leverage and you can’t do anything about it.”

Trump, locks door:

“Now youse can’t leave”

Glorious.

Perfect.



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Originally posted by tleddy:
Time to take out the infrastructure - no electricity, no water, no bridges! Nothing that remotely supports the Iranian military and war effort.

I also think TDS is an excuse for traitorous behavior; behavior that deserves the maximum penalties available under law.

So you're advocating for the US military to commit war crimes? That's where we're at?

Also remember that Iran can launch drones to do the same thing in the region if they wanted - 80% of the water in Israel comes from their desalination plants. An attack on them would be devastating for their civilian population. Saudi is 70%, Kuwait 90% and Oman 86%.

If Iran took out any of the desalination plants in those countries, it would be a super quick way to ensure our "allies" turn against us. Imagine the humanitarian disaster if they ran out of drinking water in just a few days.

Face it, Iran has maneuvered us into a no-win predicament. One that many saw coming weeks/months/years ago.

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Originally posted by braillediver:

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Trump announces a naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz

The U.S. president ordered the American Navy to block all vessels in the strait and seize ships that paid “protection money" to Iran. “The Iranians are carrying out global extortion."

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/425365

This reminds me of the battle of Alesia.

DUBAI, April 11 (Reuters) - Iran’s new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei is still recovering from severe facial and leg injuries suffered in the airstrike that killed his father at the beginning of the war, three people close to his inner circle told Reuters.

Khamenei’s face was disfigured in the attack on the supreme leader’s compound in central Tehran and he suffered a significant injury to one or both legs, all three sources said.

Khamenei’s whereabouts, condition and ability to rule still largely remain a mystery to the public, with no photo, video or audio recording of him published since the air attack and his subsequent appointment as his father’s replacement on March 8.

Iran’s United Nations mission did not respond to Reuters questions about the extent of Khamenei’s injuries or the reason he has not yet appeared in any images or recordings.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...fd44e5335e3b63&ei=20

As Yogi Berra once said ”It ain’t over until the fat lady sings and she hasn’t even come up to bat yet.”

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

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Originally posted by tleddy:
Time to take out the infrastructure - no electricity, no water, no bridges! Nothing that remotely supports the Iranian military and war effort.

I also think TDS is an excuse for traitorous behavior; behavior that deserves the maximum penalties available under law.

So you're advocating for the US military to commit war crimes? That's where we're at?

Also remember that Iran can launch drones to do the same thing in the region if they wanted - 80% of the water in Israel comes from their desalination plants. An attack on them would be devastating for their civilian population. Saudi is 70%, Kuwait 90% and Oman 86%.

If Iran took out any of the desalination plants in those countries, it would be a super quick way to ensure our "allies" turn against us. Imagine the humanitarian disaster if they ran out of drinking water in just a few days.

Face it, Iran has maneuvered us into a no-win predicament. One that many saw coming weeks/months/years ago.

Hoy boy, yes the left is losing their shit.

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

So you're advocating for the US military to commit war crimes? That's where we're at?

Oh knock it off with the war crimes bullshit. There's nothing "war crime" about it.

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Face it, Iran has maneuvered us into a no-win predicament. One that many saw coming weeks/months/years ago.

Well, shit. We should just quit, and come sailing home with our tails between our legs then. As Adrian told Rocky, "YOU CAN'T WIN!"

C'mon. Anything a Lefty disagrees with it a war crime or an illegal war.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
As Yogi Berra once said ”It ain’t over until the fat lady sings and she hasn’t even come up to bat yet.”

Yogi might’ve said it, but he wasn’t the original source.

“Origin: Often attributed to sports information director Ralph Carpenter in 1976 regarding a Texas Tech basketball game, though popularized by sports writer Dan Cook.”

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

So you're advocating for the US military to commit war crimes?

Who told you that is a war crime?


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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

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Originally posted by tleddy:
Time to take out the infrastructure - no electricity, no water, no bridges! Nothing that remotely supports the Iranian military and war effort.

I also think TDS is an excuse for traitorous behavior; behavior that deserves the maximum penalties available under law.

So you're advocating for the US military to commit war crimes? That's where we're at?

Also remember that Iran can launch drones to do the same thing in the region if they wanted - 80% of the water in Israel comes from their desalination plants. An attack on them would be devastating for their civilian population. Saudi is 70%, Kuwait 90% and Oman 86%.

If Iran took out any of the desalination plants in those countries, it would be a super quick way to ensure our "allies" turn against us. Imagine the humanitarian disaster if they ran out of drinking water in just a few days.

Face it, Iran has maneuvered us into a no-win predicament. One that many saw coming weeks/months/years ago.

I'll do you one better Jeff... I say blow up their Mosques and schools. Want to end the cycle of generational violent anti-Americanism? Kill it where it starts.

We won this war the very day it started and Trump has already stated that it was a major victory. The Strait of Hormuz is not our problem and its blockage is the responsibility of countries dependent on it to resolve. We have plenty of our own domestic resources and we can easily weather a prolonged closure of the Strait.

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Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
I say blow up their Mosques and schools. Want to end the cycle of generational violent anti-Americanism? Kill it where it starts.

Why is it that every time you post, you sound progressively more unhinged? Do you even think before you type? Just like that, blow up all the schools, kill all the children? And that is going to end the anti-Americanism problem for good?

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:

Face it, Iran has maneuvered us into a no-win predicament.

Oh really.

Since the comment about “war crimes” was addressed to me, personally, I respond.

Any facility that supports the military of a combatant is considered a legitimate target. The President has the advice of JAG on a constant basis!

There is no doubt whatsoever that the infrastructure is used by the Iranian military forces, providing power and facilitating transport of forces.

I point out that Iran does not need an ICBM to attack the United States with a nuclear
device! A commercial vessel parked in New York Harbor… or the Port of Miami… any port City in the Country… would wreak havoc on us!

So, since you suggest I am advocating war crimes, you are essentially defending the enemies right to destroy New York City, Miami, Los Angeles and our country in general. I cheerfully say to you, GFYS!

tleddy
SSGT,USArmy 1961-1965

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Originally posted by AirmanJeff:
Face it, Iran has maneuvered us into a no-win predicament. One that many saw coming weeks/months/years ago.

Take that shit elsewhere. I'm not asking.

Trump playing 4D Chess again. My opinion countries will see and realize it is much less expensive to ship and insure purchasing oil from the United States. Iran shot themselves and the middle east on the foot. As the United States will become the preferred oil seller in the world. 60 million barrels for the month of April. Several Asian countries will be sending their oil tankers to the US to have us refill them instead of having them go to the middle east.

God Bless


https://archive.is/20260320073...blocks-mideast-flows


Asian buyers have scooped up the most US oil in three years, as the Strait of Hormuz crisis spurs a hunt for alternatives to Persian Gulf crude.
A flurry of purchases in recent days has taken the amount of Asia-bound American oil to be loaded in April to about 60 million barrels, according to traders familiar with the deals, who asked not to be named. That’s the most for a month since April 2023, data from Kpler Ltd. and Vortexa Ltd. show.
The closure of Hormuz because of the war in the Middle East between the US, Israel and Iran has hit Asian nations that are heavily reliant on oil from the Persian Gulf particularly hard, spurring refinery run cuts and a ban on fuel exports in China. US drillers in the world’s biggest oil producer are among the beneficiaries of the resulting upsurge in demand and jump in prices, although costlier crude and fuels stand to be a drag for consumers.

One of the shipments, to Taiwan, was priced at a $12-to-$13 a barrel premium to Dated Brent, the traders said. Others were pegged about $18 a barrel above the Dubai marker, although the big swings in benchmarks this week have complicated the pricing process, they said. That compares with $5-to-$6 barrel premiums over Dubai in similar deals done last month, before the war.
There’s also been a surge of activity in the shipping market, with shipbrokers reporting a spike in vessel bookings and associated costs. There’s so much US crude needing to be shipped that traders are even turning to smaller Aframaxes, instead of the typical supertankers — very large crude carriers that can hold 2 million barrels — for deliveries on the route to Asia.
Traders said about two-thirds of the month’s roughly 60 million barrel tally will be loaded onto VLCCs, while the rest will go on smaller vessels, including Aframax and Suexmax tankers.

While substantial, the inbound volume of US oil won’t provide Asian refiners with a near-term fix to the crisis, however. Shipments loaded in April typically won’t reach their destinations until about two months after that.
Buyers included refiners in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Thailand, the traders said. The headline figure could go higher still, as the window to purchase US April-loading cargoes remains open for a short while.
Overall, the US usually exports around 110 million barrels a month, with about half going to Europe and more than a third heading to Asia, according to Kpler and Vortexa. Asian buyers took around 35 million barrels of American oil in each of the first two months of this year.