Oriental Redneck

| Was the brake checkee speeding? How closed was he to the brake checker?
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| The ckeckee is at fault IMO. While it is a dick move, he shouldn't have been so close that he couldn't stop or otherwise avoid the checker.
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| In most states it is an absolute that the person following is at fault. Maybe if you have footage that shows them dive bombing you within feet and then checking you might overcome that, but simple following not a chance.
“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
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Just because something is legal to do doesn't mean it is the smart thing to do.
| All drivers are required to be able to stop in a safe assured distance. No matter how many times the front car hits his brakes the following car has the responsibility to stop safely. Maybe repeated "brake checks", wrong as it is, might mean the second car was tailgating or some other reckless manner of driving.
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Ammoholic

| quote: break check a person multiple times
The person who runs into the back of the other car is at fault in my opinion, if they hit them the first time, I'd say my maybe the break checker. There's a crazy strategy I've developed which I'm willing to share for free. If you get tangled up with someone in road rage, disengage. Whatever justification you have for continuing the back and forth, you're wrong. Slow down; pull off the road; take a unplanned turn/exit; do whatever is necessary to remove yourself from the situation as fast as possible.
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| The camera is going to show someone tailgating someone else multiple times and not taking defensive actions. Unless the camera shows the lead car starting this process by cutting off the other car or something, I think the driver doing the rear ending is screwed. I don’t think you can make the case you had no other choice but to ram the car in front of you in most cases. |
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The Unmanned Writer

| Following too close is the infraction if you rear end someone to include not compensating for speed, traffic volume, road conditions, weather, position of the sun, etc. Hitting your brakes or stopping for no valid reason is also an infraction (at least in California). Proving someone hit their brakes or stopped for no reason is very hard to prove ("I thought I saw a kid's ball roll out into traffic" or, "an animal was there ... which the dash cam of the car behind me isn't showing, "I was having car issues, sounded like my accelerator was sticking" etc)"
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A Grateful American

| In many states "brake checking" is considered reckless and endangering and that is a crime, while "following too closely" is an infraction, (administrative not criminal). But, if someone "brake checks", best to back off and even exit after they pass the exit, grab a Snickers and a Coke, then get back on and drive easy. If one is "braked checked numerous times" they are likely begging for trouble by continuing to be close enough to be "checked".
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The Unknown Stuntman

| I'm old, my insurance is cheap, and my car is worth maybe $800...so brake check me or do whatever it is you gotta do, but know this, I'll kill us both.  |
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Oriental Redneck

| Well, he was the total asshole.
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| The only moment that matters in this is when he cuts in front of you and brakes. If you hit him them you have a case. After that its all on you in every state.
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A Grateful American

| quote: Originally posted by sigarmsp226: Speed limit on the two lane highway was 55. I was driving 52-54 because I had a heavy loaded utility trailer (lights hooked up and working) I was pulling. ...
It's obvious who the asshole was. It weren't you.
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| | | Posts: 46598 | Location: Box 1663 Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: December 20, 2008 |  
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| There was a scam going on that I heard about years ago. 2 cars set up the pigeon. Car 1 cuts off (shitbox) car 2 that is in front of the innocent pigeon. Car 2 locks them up HARD getting rear ended - copious insurance claims to follow…and the innocent gets a ticket to boot.
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| Brake Checking is a classic indicator of Road Rage and I expect that every single state in the US has some rather strict laws on the books concerning Road Rage. Show a Police Officer a video of someone Brake Checking a driver and the result will be a trip to Jail and a bunch of citations for the Brake Checker. As for charges. First will be Aggressive Driving, something that really pisses off nearly all traffic enforcement officers. Second is Reckless Driving, another citation with some real teeth to it. Third is Careless Driving, not as serious as Reckless driving but still a pretty hefty penalty. Then there are the vehicle penalties, the Brake Checker better hope those broken tail lights still work or he'll get cited for that equipment failure. Finally the Brake Checker will be cited as At Fault for the accident. Basically the Police really don't like these behaviors and will "throw the book" at an aggressive driver who causes an accident.
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| quote: Originally posted by sigarmsp226:
If someone decides to break check a person multiple times and the final result is an accident, if the person being brake checked has a dash camera of the incident, who is at fault
Multiple break [ sic] checks? After the first one, a safe drive would stay far away from the brake checking vehicle, so there really shouldn't be multiple instances.
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