SIGforum
"there isn't going to be a draft"

This topic can be found at:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/9610001505

December 02, 2023, 02:56 PM
parabellum
"there isn't going to be a draft"
Well, I hope there's a draft and I kinda hope he's right, because I really want all these whining, coddled little fruits to go into hiding and get a taste of what hardship is really like. Smile

https://twitter.com/WallStreet.../1730783213474242780


December 02, 2023, 02:57 PM
FishOn
Agreed
December 02, 2023, 03:01 PM
PHPaul
Not requiring military service or some similar mandated service to country and countrymen is a huge mistake.

IMHO it was a big step toward the Entitled Me Generation we're dealing with now.

Heinlein had it right in Star Troopers - no veteran status, no vote. You got no skin in the game, you got no say.

But I'm a grouchy old fart that's out of touch with the times...




Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
December 02, 2023, 03:03 PM
ragman
thanks for the good good laugh . I needed one. Smile



" I didn't fail the test,I just found 100 ways to do it wrong." - Benjamin Franklin
December 02, 2023, 03:04 PM
parabellum
They'll be packing for Canada for real! Wink Razz
December 02, 2023, 03:12 PM
Lefty Sig
South Korea has mandatory military service for 2 years after high school. When doing a project in South Korea between 2012-2015 I saw first hand their work ethic and how hard they work, even the younger ones. They also don't whine about shit like Americans do. They are proud of South Korea, and buy South Korean stuff.

Not sure if the U.S. military could handle as many people as a mandatory draft would provide them. But some program to instill self discipline would certainly help.
December 02, 2023, 03:15 PM
bendable
But what if the
Identify
As a pacifist?





Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.



Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first
December 02, 2023, 03:30 PM
220-9er
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
But what if the
Identify
As a pacifist?


I think you could still be required to some sort of military service, just not as a front-line soldier.
Here's the WW2 version of the story.

https://www.nationalww2museum....ilian-public-service


___________________________
Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible.
December 02, 2023, 04:04 PM
400m
No veteran status, no vote…
Take it easy there PHPaul, not everyone can serve.
December 02, 2023, 04:16 PM
kz1000
"There was one?"




------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
-Bomber Harris
December 02, 2023, 04:34 PM
ibanda
quote:
Originally posted by bendable:
But what if the
Identify
As a pacifist?


If we want mandatory 1 year military service, I would say a 2 year commitment for some type of work for the country. Interstate asphalt paving crew or some other productive task Wink




I have a few SIGs.
December 02, 2023, 04:37 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by ibanda:
Interstate asphalt paving crew or some other productive task

The unions would never allow that.


________________________________________________________
"Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton.
December 02, 2023, 04:51 PM
Appliance Brad
Selective Service local board member here.

If a Draft is required, there are no deferments and Conscientious Objectors (those apposed to violence or war) will receive an alternative service assignment

Link


__________________________
Writing the next chapter that I've been looking forward to.
December 02, 2023, 04:54 PM
darthfuster
I think politicians will learn too late that allowing patriotism to die in the younger generations was a mistake.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
December 02, 2023, 05:18 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Israel has a mandatory three years for men and two for women. In the United States, Marines met their quota. They know how to reach 18 year olds.
December 02, 2023, 07:02 PM
egregore
If the current trend in the services (except the Marines) of not meeting recruitment goals continues for long, a draft might have to be revived.
December 02, 2023, 07:07 PM
parabellum
I'm all for it! Big Grin

All these marshmallow little pussies wanna bitch? Then, let's by God give 'em something to bitch about.
December 02, 2023, 07:10 PM
smschulz
You would hope the military would change the mindset of these kids being drafted, if one was adopted.
If they didn't we would just end up with the likes of LEO's that were cowards or or worse of these so called mass-shootings like in Uvalde and elsewhere.
I imagine they would never be sent into combat anyway.
December 02, 2023, 07:29 PM
nhracecraft
How many here have a 'draft age' son you'd be as enthusiastic to send off to be part of the current military of this country as you're all indicating? Serious question...I've got SERIOUS reservations on this topic!


____________________________________________________________

If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !!
Trump 47....Make America Great Again!
"May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20
Live Free or Die!
December 02, 2023, 07:36 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
If the current trend in the services (except the Marines) of not meeting recruitment goals continues for long, a draft might have to be revived.

I'm guessing the Marines have a very simple recruitment message: "If you're a momma's boy, a sissy, or a mamby pamby, we don't want you, only real men need apply".




Lover of the US Constitution
Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster