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I am not concerned about Trump winning the election I am concerned IF he wins The Electoral College actually has the final word - popular vote be damned does anyone know specifically who these people are and how corrupted have they become in the last 8 years? I did a web search and was able to find the names of several individuals in the EC but they were for historical elections - nothing for 2016 [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
Those people are chosen in the election. There is no "Electoral College" with existing permanent members. Each state has a slate of electors who will be chosen if the candidate they are pledged to gets the most vote in that state. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...llege_(United_States) Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Which part is it you think he doesn't understand? If it's the bit about how amendments are adopted for ratification, there's a big difference between "calling for an amendment" and "proposing an amendment and sending it to the states for ratification." Thousands of amendments have been proposed, many (including that are now part of the Constitution) are originally proposed by someone outside of Congress. Just like presidents and outside orgs propose many laws, but they can't send a bill to Congress. "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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That's funny, pompous and ignorant. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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While technically possible, it is a stretch to assume that either candidate will get to 270 and not be elected in the EC. I think that is the least of our worries right now. Getting to 270 on November 8th in a fair election.... that's something about which to worry. | |||
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| Political Cynic |
I know they're not permanent Just curious as to who they are [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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State legislatures. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Satiate your curiosity by reading the article I cited. Electors are chosen by the political parties about a month before elections. Laws in each state vary a bit. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Ole nate silver has that UT guy a 1% to win the election. IF, which is a big if he wins utah, it could split EC votes and congress could pick him. Also plenty of elections where EC votes unbound from the winner of the whole state. VT and NH allow peeling off of EC votes and allow write ins. Its unlikely but possible. What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Interesting guest list continues on for Trump's debate tomorrow. He has invited Malik Obama, Barry's half-brother, all the way from Kenya, to be Trump's guest. Holding a dual citizenship, including the U.S., the former Democrat switched after disappointment with his brother, and is now in Trump's corner. Like I said, interesting choice  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...ing-third-president/ "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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From Breitbart: ""Pat Smith, the mother of Benghazi victim Sean Smith, will attend the third presidential debate on Wednesday as a VIP guest of Donald Trump. Sean Smith was working as a State Department IT consultant when he was killed during the terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya in 2012. Pat Smith has long held then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton responsible for her son’s death. “I think I’m going to be in the front row. But I’m not sure,” Smith told Yahoo News. During her speech at the Republican National Convention in July, Smith said Hillary “lied” to her about the cause of her son’s death in Benghazi. “When I saw Hillary Clinton at his coffin ceremony days later she looked me squarely in the eye and told me a video was responsible,” Smith said during her primetime speech. “Since then I have repeatedly asked Hillary Clinton to explain to me the real reason why my son is dead. I’m still waiting.” “I want to look in Hillary’s eyes, and have her lie to me again,” Smith said. Senior Trump campaign adviser and surrogate retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn said, “Hopefully Wednesday these families will get their answer.” “Hillary said ‘What difference does it make?’ — the difference was four lives were lost in Benghazi, and the families have still never had a solid answer from Hillary Clinton as to why we allowed this to happen,” Lt. Gen. Flynn told Yahoo News. Trump used the second presidential debate to invite three women who accused former President Bill Clinton of rape and sexual harassment. The final debate will be held on Wednesday, October 19th at 9:00pm ET and is moderated by Fox News Anchor Chris Wallace."" | |||
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Don't think it matters who sits in the front row. Neither candidate is going to be intimidated by the mere presence of someone in attendance. Particularly Hillary she is without conscience. Now if the candidates had to be subjected to a 10 minute question and answer segment directly by their accusers that may bring about a bit of anxiety and record ratings I'm sure. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. |
Now that's some funny shit. Right out of Godfather II | |||
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Just saw this reddit thread. They busted dems making a fake pedo claim on assange. Theyve tied all the addresses back to clinton, even public dnc people are deleting posts and making thier twitter private. https://m.reddit.com/r/WikiLea...direct&compact=false What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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Regarding the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of undecideds in this election, I wonder what do they do when election day comes and they haven't decided yet and are standing in front of the booth. Do they flip a coin? Play rock/paper/scissors with themselves? Take a bathroom break so as to gain a bit more time? Look and copy what the guy/gal/they in the next booth is doing? Go eeny, meeny...? I think that the most reliable, scientific method is rock/paper/scissors. Opinions vary.  *************************** Knowing more by accident than on purpose. | |||
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Rubio disappoints yet again. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...mp/story?id=42895586 "As our intelligence agencies have said, these leaks are an effort by a foreign government to interfere with our electoral process and I will not indulge it,” Rubio tells ABC news. "Further, I want to warn my fellow Republicans who may want to capitalize politically on these leaks: Today it is the Democrats. Tomorrow it could be us." he won’t talk about the hacked emails at all. ********************* The hacked emails are out there. One would be a fool not to see the inside thinking of the leaked emails. Am retired now, but at work I lived by email. We would constantly remind ourselves and our entire team about unclassified email systems: Don't put anything in an email that would embarrass you if it appeared in the front page news. | |||
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Because Rubio is dirty. What is he afraid of coming out on the republican side? That is the statement of a dishonest man taking about a dishonest party. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
What is "reddit?" Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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So it's OK for the biased, liberal media to interfere and influence our electoral process? Those people exposed in the email leaks should be held accountable for what they said instead of listening to and believing their public lies. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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