Locker room frat boy talk > having your ambassador's corpse dragged thru the streets

I remember a time when we were much more civilized, and didn't use potty mouth words when addressing sensitive subjects.

Take for example the Starr report where proper terminology was used, "On one occasion, the President inserted a cigar into her vagina."

It is easy to understand why that was acceptable to Hillary and Trumps terminology is repugnant.

With Trump, at least I know what I am getting.

With Hillary, all that I know that I am getting is that 4 AM visit from dom to go find the site of the horrible canoe accident where all my guns were lost.

Trump is the big freakin' dirtbag that was necessary to run against the absolutely sleaziest, self-interested, rape-enabling, lying sack of shit to run for President, probably since LBJ (the politician from TX, not our beloved site owner). The DNC and RNC (GOP-e) created this mess. The parties and Washington DC have been exposed for what they are. Parasites.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by domcintosh:
No. A vote not for Trump is not a vote for Clinton. A vote for Clinton is not a vote for Trump. A vote for neither is not a vote for either.

Feel good about being technically correct, but that’s all it is. It’s no different than saying, “I didn’t start the fire that burned the forest; the lit cigarette I threw from my car window did that.” You’re trying to justify yourself by pretending that actions have no consequences beyond the most immediate one: “All I did was mark an X on a piece of paper; I share no responsibility for what happened after that.”

Exactly !!

I have to believe that Trump and his people learned a lot from the first debate, and are regrouping to come out swinging for the second. I believe that the gloves will be off for this one, and I don't think that Hildabeast can hold here own with Trump without losing it. I do so hope that I am correct.

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Originally posted by Mainframe Coder:

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Originally posted by sdy:
Several reports that more bad stuff is coming.

So if you are weak in the knees right now, buckle up.

I've been seeing this all day as well. The Howard Stern stuff is already out this afternoon but there's not much there. Several Dem sources saying they have more to release that is "worse" than the sex talk tape. We'll see.

I'm hoping Trump's prep people are able to build a response for Trump to deliver tonight that not only covers the stuff already released, but also acknowledges that more "locker room talk" may be out there. Portray it all as desperation by the Hillary Campaign because they can't win a debate on the issues that truly matter to our country.

Some back channel stuff has the DNC setting up fake rape accusations against Trump with three UNNAMED victims.... this is their way so I wouldn't doubt it.

Who needs names or proof....

Time will tell but who cares, we know the establishment will do ANYTHING to maintain control.

Stay on target all and don't be weak minded, I think those here will have no problem understanding this.

By election day Trump will be known as the most evil person since Lucifer if the media has its way.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tanksoldier:
Locker room frat boy talk > having your ambassador's corpse dragged thru the streets


That's not ambassador Stevens

If you take a few steps back from this, it's funny. Women have come forward to accuse Bill Clinton of rape and sexual assault. As president, he had a teenaged intern regularly come in to the Oval Office to blow him, sometimes while he was on the phone on "official" calls. He is a horn dog of epic proportions, and Hillary aided and abetted him in his exploits by insulting and intimidating the women of the-- as she put it-- "bimbo eruptions." She portrayed the intern, Monica Lewinsky-- who inserted cigars in her vagina on Bill's request-- as a "psycho stalker."

Right? Got that?

NOW... in a video from 10 years ago Trump says some moderately dirty things about women. And the political world is in a frenzy!!! Hillary-- you know, of her husband's "bimbo eruptions"? The cum stained blue dress, and all that?-- is horrified!! Little Paulie Ryan needs an emergency safe space! Hollywood celebrities who live with their heads up one another's ass are shocked! Enraged! Robert DiNero-- who make-believe plays tough guys in movies-- offers to punch Trump in the face!

Really, this is the stuff of high comedy.

Laugh at them.

Let Trump and his team handle this in the debate tonight. Despite the hilarious spectacle, it will not determine, or even much influence, the election.

Hillary Clinton... shocked!! Megyn Kelly, who in an interview with Howard Stern compared the size of her current husband's dick with her former husband's dick-- is outraged!! Hahahahahahahaha!!

These days are precious. Reality may never again stick its thumbs in its ears, waggle it fingers and go " BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!!! right in our faces like this again.

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Originally posted by TMats:

That's not ambassador Stevens

Agreed. There's nothing in the known facts to suggest that any of what is depicted is true. In fact, what is known would strongly suggest none of it happened.

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Originally posted by sdy:
Several reports that more bad stuff is coming.
So if you are weak in the knees right now, buckle up.
The title of this thread : "Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown .."

We all knew he was not the well behaved traditional model for a good president.
But his words of his intentions are far far more aligned with most of us here than Clinton's.

I am riding the Trump train wherever it winds up. But it will be a bumpy ride for sure.

^^THIS^^
Most of America and 90%(?) of the people on this board wouldn't fit the traditional model for a President.
I would take ANY person on this board over Clintoon any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Some folks on this forum may be thought of as ignorant gas bags, but at least they haven't been PROVEN to be backstabbing turncoats.

Trump speaks crudely - - Hilliar is a traitor of the Constitution. It isn't a difficult choice.

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does anyone actually believe that some measure of this topic does not take place among women as well?

no one who knows very many.

I've heard worse at debutante balls, in sorority houses, and from all manner of other women in various situations and from most every place along the socioeconomic spectrum.

anyone who is appalled is either feigning it, incredibly sheltered, or otherwise projecting how they wish things were - rather than how reality and people actually are.

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Originally posted by tanksoldier:
Locker room frat boy talk > having your ambassador's corpse dragged thru the streets

^^^ It is impossible for me to forget this.

Many people live with a moral priority that comes from religion. It focuses on sexual purity and how to stay true to God. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, for instance, is easy to find in the Bible.

But, it’s harder to find a verse that says how to vote in a free society. The moral objection to Trump’s talk is understandable. He is not living with a conventional religious conception of personal limitations. And, although he may have moderated himself over the years, he was a playboy rich guy.

A lot of religious people scrub their thoughts and actions of what is morally reprehensible from the Bible’s point of view – for them, God’s point of view. With that priority, religious people have been manipulated in their voting patterns for many years.

Simply show a series of moral failings from a Biblical point of view and the Republican candidate is toast – not because his ideas are worse but because the right’s moral standard disqualifies him from office. The same moral rule does not apply to the other side in most instances. Indeed, moral issues are being recast in our society.

So, where is the verse and clear moral imperative to see Ambassador Steven’s death as less severe than boorish sex talk? The morality is more Biblically diffuse and combine principles of honor, national respect and avoiding needless death.

Earlier, someone posted a statement by Franklin Graham and it holds true. The moral and policy alternative to Trump is way worse than accepting Trump’s moral failings. For Biblical moral voters, it is not enough to say that all guys talk that way . . . because they don’t.

Trump’s words were terrible and I have never uttered such things as so many other men have never done. The outrage is understandable but where is the deeper outrage for leaving people to die and misusing the power of government?

People who have strong Biblical beliefs are needed for a coalition to win this election. It is just hard to understand why the normal acceptance of other people’s moral failings from marginal believers in everyday life should not apply to Trump.

The Democrats are using their mud machine to dissuade voters. How long will the religious community allow itself to be manipulated like Pavlov’s dog. Hillary promises to limit the First Amendment rights of religious communities while using the power of government, including the Supreme Court, to harm traditional values, replacing pluralism with a monolithically left secular morality.

Hillary's treatment of Ambassador Stevens and the others from Benghazi create an even greater moral outrage in me by far.

I know there's going to be a lot of that tonight.

This false outrage wasn't there when WJC told Ted Kennedy that BHO would've been serving them coffee a few years ago. Or HRC's pandering to blacks with her vocal affectations. Last I recall, the Presidency was about management, not manners. It's funny; Trump is getting hell for saying "pussy" and nobody cares that HRC uses hers as a campaign plank.

I hope Trump starts the debate with an another apology and then declares this topic dead, as he's addressed America on the matter. I want him to pre-empt any traps.

Trump is the only Republican willing to get down in the mud with the Democrats. This is the Democrat style of campaigning for decades, but they have now shown that there is no bottom to their slime and sleaze.

Trump will have my vote no matter what.

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Originally posted by Opus Dei:
It's funny; Trump is getting hell for saying "pussy" and nobody cares that HRC uses hers as a campaign plank.

That is a truly provocative turn of phrase. Stolen.

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Originally posted by rekstrom:
OK, so Trump is no cunning linguist.

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Originally posted by KMitch200:

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
As hard as I try, I cannot find a scintilla of outrage at what Trump said. Nothing new about men talking about women, sex, yada yada. Been going of for a long, long time and not likely to change anytime soon.

Does anyone actually believe that some measure of this topic does not take place among women as well?

That made me chuckle.
While we were watching the opening skit of SNL last night, my wife was wondering what was said. She looked up an unedited full version.
After watching the video she said: "That's it?? I've heard a lot worse in the nurse's station at {un-named peds ED} coming out of womens mouths. I've walked away from worse conversations than this to make sure all the patients room doors were closed so the parents wouldn't hear it!"

You couldn't get her to vote for Hilliar at gunpoint.

When I was working construction in my much younger days, we were doing some remodeling at a bank. They had an open duct in the ceiling where one of our guys was working. It piped in the conversation in one of the rooms occupied by about ten women. And it was as clear as being in the room. The talk that went on in there was as raunchy as you'd hear on any construction site.

Everyone should relax. All Mr.Trump needs to do is develop a public stance on these situations and a private response for his supporters etc.

Oh....wait! HRC has already done that according to her latest leaked emails.....

Hillary is a rotten whore who enables adultery, raping, killing, and terrible decision making.

Trump is a hard ass who loves pussy, money, and America.

Is it 6pm PST yet? I hope Trump puts her on the ropes and wrings that oily bag out. The gloves are removed. Her flaps better be quivering by the time the final bell rings. Trump has nothing to lose and everything to gain.