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Story below. Terrible situation. Sounds like something out of Kill Bill

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The chief executive of the corporation in charge of an Arizona nursing home where a woman in a vegetative state gave birth has resigned.

Bill Timmons's resignation was unanimously accepted by directors, the company said in a statement.

The woman had been a patient in a clinic run by Hacienda HealthCare near Phoenix for over a decade and required round-the-clock care.

Police have launched a sexual assault investigation into the incident.

The woman, who has not been identified, is thought to have given birth on 29 December.

"From what I've been told she was moaning and they didn't know what was wrong with her," an unidentified source told CBS Phoenix affiliate KPHO-TV.

"None of the staff were aware that she was pregnant until she was pretty much giving birth."

Gary Orman, the executive vice president of the company's board, said it would "accept nothing less than a full accounting of this absolutely horrifying situation".

"And we will do everything in our power to ensure the safety of every single one of our patients and our employees."

The New York Times reports that fresh allegations of abuse have emerged, including inadequate privacy for patients while they were naked or being showered.

'Heightened safety measures'
A Phoenix police spokesman said that "the matter is currently under investigation" but declined to give any further details of the case.

Protocol at the clinic has been changed, the source said, and men now have to be accompanied by a woman on entering the room of a female patient.

Hacienda HealthCare said it was fully co-operating with the authorities.

The Arizona Department of Health Services said it had sent inspectors to check on patients at the facility and had implemented "heightened safety measures".

On its website, Hacienda HealthCare says it provides care for "medically fragile and chronically ill infants, children, teens, and young adults as well as those with intellectual and developmental disabilities".




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How many more victims are there?


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we will know in 9 months.


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The staff saying they had no idea she was pregnant makes no sense.

I’ve no doubt her documentation must have included her monthly menses, and when that stopped, no bells rang? Don’t they do routine bloods to make sure the vegetative patient is receiving adequate nutrition, that all her bloodwork is in within normal limits?

I’m calling bullshit on this. Someone on staff knew. They thought they could tuck this under the rug. And now the grands have the baby?


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Resign ,hell no.Needs his dick cut off and pay child support for life.
 
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Resign ,hell no.Needs his dick cut off and pay child support for life.


I think you're jumping to conclusions... I don't believe the CEO was necessarily the perp. (Possibly, sure, but probably not.)

He resigned because the abuse happened on his company's watch, and because the company was receiving a shitload of bad press and needed a scapegoat to fall on their sword for the apparent lack of adequate protections in place at their facilities.
 
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Yeah, color me slow. I didn’t understand why he had to resign until it dawned on me she was there for 10 years. I guess they don’t have cameras.



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The article I read indicates the CEO swept other inappropriate behavior under the rug, so he's just as guilty as the one who impregnated the woman. It also said staff was afraid to report abuses because they'd lose their job. It basically concludes the CEO was a control freak and reported nothing to the state or proper authorities. D-bag to the nth degree.
 
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Horrific care at probably $6K a month , if not more. This needs a thorough investigation. Take DNA from staff , match to the newborn. Then prosecute.
 
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I guess they don’t have cameras.
My MIL was in a similar center for almost two years. They have cameras in all the halls and public areas, but not in the patient rooms as there's a patient privacy issue there. Having visited this sort of complex for over two years, I can (unfortunately) see how this sort of unconscionable behavior could occur if you had the wrong employees working there. Extended care and nursing home facilities are probably the most depressing and vulnerable places I've ever been in my life.

I hope they find the person responsible and they're prosecuted to the absolute full intent of the law.


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I guess they don’t have cameras.
My MIL was in a similar center for almost two years. They have cameras in all the halls and public areas, but not in the patient rooms as there's a patient privacy issue there. Having visited this sort of complex for over two years, I can (unfortunately) see how this sort of unconscionable behavior could occur if you had the wrong employees working there. Extended care and nursing home facilities are probably the most depressing and vulnerable places I've ever been in my life.

I hope they find the person responsible and they're prosecuted to the absolute full intent of the law.



The site I read this one went on to mention that cameras are a safety measure that may be implemented at this and other facilities, at the patient's families request. Sad that this sort of thing happens enough for that to become policy.


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Take DNA from staff , match to the newborn. Then prosecute.


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"None of the staff were aware that she was pregnant until she was pretty much giving birth."


Say what???

Vegetative/comatose woman for years suddenly starts growing an enlarged stomach region?

And nobody notices and starts asking questions?

I wonder if they will do a DNA survey to determine the ID of the male "donor", and then send the asshole to prison. The other residents there will just love the asshole! Literally!


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A DNA of all Males that were employed there 9 months ago would solve this real quick!
Then 50cc's of Round up to the testicles would eliminate that possibility from ever occurring again!


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Take DNA from staff , match to the newborn. Then prosecute.


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Yeah, even if only to "exclude staff."



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I'll they'll need is the consent of all the male staff or a search warrant... Will a judge issue such a warrant? How many male staff are/were there? What about male patients who are ambulatory? What about visitors?
 
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I'll they'll need is the consent of all the male staff or a search warrant... Will a judge issue such a warrant? How many male staff are/were there? What about male patients who are ambulatory? What about visitors?

All the more reason to test current and ex-staff to exclude them from investigation.
Not sure if ambulatory patients are given access to the permanently bedridden pts. It's been almost 40 years since my medic class visited. Likely not even the same building.


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I guess they don’t have cameras.
My MIL was in a similar center for almost two years. They have cameras in all the halls and public areas, but not in the patient rooms as there's a patient privacy issue there. Having visited this sort of complex for over two years, I can (unfortunately) see how this sort of unconscionable behavior could occur if you had the wrong employees working there. Extended care and nursing home facilities are probably the most depressing and vulnerable places I've ever been in my life.

I hope they find the person responsible and they're prosecuted to the absolute full intent of the law.


In Jacksonville, FL it was reported this past November that a 94 year old woman (yes, 94) was raped in a nursing home (by someone wearing scrubs so most likely an employee rather than someone else living there). How f'ing sick is that?
 
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"None of the staff were aware that she was pregnant until she was pretty much giving birth."


Say what???

Vegetative/comatose woman for years suddenly starts growing an enlarged stomach region?

And nobody notices and starts asking questions?



It's possible, especially if she was obese.

Heck, you semi-regularly read/hear about non-comatose women who (allegedly) don't know they're pregnant until they give birth in a bathroom.
 
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