What was hard to watch about that?

Cause a disturbance and get physically removed. I didn't see any excessive force or issues with the way it was handled.

If you don't want to get manhandled, then walk when they tell you to walk. You aren't going to be allowed to fly after you tell the crew that you have a life threatening allergy and the crew cannot remove the support animal due to federal law.

It's her own fault.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
Screw everyone involved.

Yeah, and that goes for Gaspar Gomez and de fucking Diaz brothers!!

I just got back from Europe, on the flight over, I had a women sitting next to me who had her dog in a carrier at her feet. Now, the dog made zero noise, zero movement in it's carrier, the flight was 11+ hours, that dog must've been old because there was not a peep. I began to wonder, with people being able to travel with their pets, who gets priority and who gets bumped on a flight, if there's another passenger, who's allergic to dog hair/dander?

Now that most airlines have stopped providing meals I have started packing some snacks when travelling. I usually take a selection of nuts and dried fruits as they travel well and are filling.
On my last three flights I was told there was a passenger with severe nut allergies on the plane and passengers were asked to not open any food items containing nuts.

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Originally posted by corsair:
I just got back from Europe, on the flight over, I had a women sitting next to me who had her dog in a carrier at her feet. Now, the dog made zero noise, zero movement in it's carrier, the flight was 11+ hours, that dog must've been old because there was not a peep. I began to wonder, with people being able to travel with their pets, who gets priority and who gets bumped on a flight, if there's another passenger, who's allergic to dog hair/dander?

If it's a service dog or comfort dog, the passenger with the allergy gets bumped like they did in this case. Federal law (ADA) trumps allergies.

People with allergies, emotional issues and the perpetually offended have ruined the whole fucking world.

Good thing they didn't have to call the K9...she'd be D-E-D.

Does being emotionally fragile fall under the ADA?

Holy crap if it does.

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Originally posted by Leemur:
People with allergies, emotional issues and the perpetually offended have ruined the whole fucking world.

People with allergies are ruining the world? WOW.

Emotional support animals are covered under federal law. It is not the airlines' fault. They are required to allow them onboard. The problem is people who get fake credentials and doctors who write the authorization letters without real need. One small crackdown on those doctors and this problem would go away. I would say 95% of the animals I see on planes are, in my professional opinion, pets, but the airlines are in a bind. They can't question a claim that an animal is an ESA and they can't deny boarding to ESAs.

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Originally posted by 1967Goat:

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Originally posted by Leemur:
People with allergies, emotional issues and the perpetually offended have ruined the whole fucking world.

People with allergies are ruining the world? WOW.

Sorry, I should've said "allergies." The ones claiming to have them for the sake of being attention whores piss me off something fierce.

But but but... SHE'S A PROFESSOR!

Airlines have long required a health certificate to fly your pet.

The veterinarian certifies that the animal appears to be free of infectious or contagious diseases that might endanger that animal or the public health, and have not come from an area quarantined for rabies.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/lib...ms/pdf/APHIS7001.pdf

How long before they have to be certified gluten-free?

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Originally posted by Leemur:
People with allergies, emotional issues and the perpetually offended have ruined the whole fucking world.

Exackly!

well apparently they threw the correct bitch off the plane...

Was not the federal legislation originally passed to address issues where Seeing Eye Dogs were being denied entrance to stores, restaurants, etc.? And after some time, the legislation was expanded to cover more types and classes of assistance animals?

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Originally posted by HRK:
well apparently they threw the correct bitch off the plane...

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:

...They can't question a claim that an animal is an ESA and they can't deny boarding to ESAs.

But the airline could demand the lady provide proof of her allergy.

Hey, I agree with others the nutty professor probably invented her life threatening allergy. But something needs to be done about the growing - heck, out of control - emotional support dog business.

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Originally posted by 10-7 leo:
Was not the federal legislation originally passed to address issues where Seeing Eye Dogs were being denied entrance to stores, restaurants, etc.? And after some time, the legislation was expanded to cover more types and classes of assistance animals?

The ADA covers airports. The Air Carrier Acess Act (ACAA) covers animals on planes. It only applies to persons with disabilities, and not to all persons with mental illness.

"Special documentation cannot generally be required of a person traveling with a service animal unless the carrier has reason to doubt the animal is a service animal after first speaking with the handler, possibly asking what tasks the animal is trained to perform. However, documentation is required of a person traveling with an Emotional Support Animal in the form of a doctor's letter."

If you are allergic to dogs, what should you do?

"“If you are traveling, call the airline or the train ahead of time to find out what their policies are so you are well-informed going into the trip,” said Dr. Cary Sennett, chief executive of the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America. “If you are bothered while traveling, you have to say something to the person next to you or to the flight attendant. It’s important to have your medications with you in your carry-on and not checked, and to ensure the medications are up-to-date.” For those with severe allergic reactions, which is not uncommon in cases like peanut allergies, he recommends keeping the medication epinephrine and auto-injectors at hand."

Based on this the woman was out of line. She could have been reseated. She could not demand the dog's be taken off the airplane. She could have shown her medication, epi-pen and such.

http://servicedogcentral.org/content/node/62
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/0...rs-need-to-know.html

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Originally posted by SapperSteel:

The shoe fits on the other foot, too, nhtagmember.

If your allergy is so bad that you can't be in the same room with a dog, then you should think long and hard before putting yourself into places where normally-enabled persons are conducting normal business and living normal lives.

Why should someone expect to be able to force her highly unusual needs onto other people who are just going about their business in a normal way? Why shouldn't it be the lady with the severe allergy who "take[s] the train, a bus, or drive[s] [her]self"?

agreed

I don't like the idea of animals in the cabin but I also detest one of 150 that gets on board, claims a peanut allergy and now 149 people have to do without the in-flight meal on Southwest

I think the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one when it comes to public transportation

what accommodation did the lady with the life-threatening allergy make?