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Next he will Exec Order the CMP to stop selling "Weapons of War" to the public.
 
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I need to get my reloading die set for 5.56. I got tons of brass for it.
 
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This motherfucker really wants to auger-in in November and then in 2024.
 
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Insufficient manufacturing capacity? Worker shortages.

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What's to stop all of the other manufacturers from ramping up production to meet demand?

Serious question.



Anyone who cares about this isn't voting Democratic anyway,

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This motherfucker really wants to auger-in in November and then in 2024.
 
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Superimpose the ,Merriam-webster definition of fascism over the actions of this administration. See if there's much of a difference.



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The way I read it, this is bad, but not that bad. Even if actually implemented, it only chokes off one relatively small source of one type of ammo. It doesn't stop anyone else from making it, nor does it affect M193 (the "standard" 55-grain FMJ), let alone .223.
 
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Read another EO he would like to do is that if a firearms manufacturer has a Federal contract that would not be able to sell firearms to civilians.


Maybe some more CEOs need to channel their inner Ronnie Barrett...
 
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Maybe some more CEOs need to channel their inner Ronnie Barrett...


The best idea yet.
 
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The point is it will do nothing to stop mass shootings. It is just intended to punish people who didn't break the law. Engaging in spite for political purposes is the folly of weak leaders.
 
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I need to get my reloading die set for 5.56. I got tons of brass for it.
Are there even 5.56 dies available to the public?? I’ve looked and can’t find any. The AR I lost in that boating accident in the gulf was chambered for both, so I have .223 dies.



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I need to get my reloading die set for 5.56. I got tons of brass for it.
Are there even 5.56 dies available to the public?? I’ve looked and can’t find any. The AR I lost in that boating accident in the gulf was chambered for both, so I have .223 dies.


They are generally one in the same because the exterior dimensions of the .223 and 5.56 case are the same.
I have RCBS dies that are marked .223/5.56
https://www.rcbs.com/dies-and-...series/16-11107.html


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Are there even 5.56 dies available to the public?? I’ve looked and can’t find any. The AR I lost in that boating accident in the gulf was chambered for both, so I have .223 dies.


5.56 and 223 have the same exterior specs. It’s the higher pressure and the throat of the 5.56 chamber that’s different.



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Total asshat move. Perfect fit for the current (mid)administration. I am more of a M193 fan so FJB.
 
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A few weeks ago I visited my LGS. Supply is starting to build, but prices too much for my taste. But in the 5.56mm shelf, they must have score a deal. 1/2 the boxes were Winchester M855 62gr. Since most ranges around here are indoors, and those that allow rifles have a strict no steel tip policy, they were not moving.


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Back in 2015 the ATF attempted to ban this ammo but it got reversed.

ATF Bans Sale of M855/SS109 Green Tip Ammo Citing Armor Piercing Capability

https://www.itstactical.com/wa...piercing-capability/

If you’ve been reading ITS long enough, you may remember an article I wrote about four years ago on Military Ammunition and Why Green Tip M855 is Not Armor Piercing. In the article, I referenced that M855/SS109 had been exempted from the list of AP classified rounds by the BATFE (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.) While M855/SS109 has carried the exemption from a 1986 prohibition on manufacture, importation and sale, (but not possession) of “armor piercing” rounds, it’s clear from the definition that it should have never needed to be “exempted.” The exemption was granted at that time because there was a “sporting purpose” for the round, which is now being overturned because of the proliferation of AR Pistols, or “AR-type handguns” on the market that didn’t exist when the exemption was placed on the round. The Federal Government defines armor piercing ammunition in 18 USC sec. 921(a)(17), which I’ve included below:

UPDATE: They Listened! ATF Reverses Plan for M855 Green Tip Ammo Ban… For Now

https://www.itstactical.com/wa...55-ammo-ban-for-now/


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Newsweek says the WH is denying that this occurred: https://www.newsweek.com/white...es-civilians-1717433
 
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Newsweek says the WH is denying that this occurred: https://www.newsweek.com/white...es-civilians-1717433


He says they story is not true and says we will not let the plant close?????

Not sure he even as a clue what he is talking about. No one said anything about the plant closing.


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I don't like this administration. I like the anti-American careerists embedded in our Federal government even less. As far as my lack of access to M855, I can't get too excited, as I consider it to be of marginal performance. I really WOULD like a good supply of M855A1. Until that happy day, I'll value my small supply of M2 AP like it was diamonds.
 
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Meh. 855 takes multiple rounds for it to penetrate level 4 armor. Two rounds for M2 AP. Unless you are shooting SLAP rounds.

It sucks they are trying to limit ammo. 855 is not that great by any stretch. 855a1 different and better but still not great.

I am fine with 193 and other defensive rounds.
 
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Reports: Biden admin orders ammo maker to stop selling 5.56 rounds to Americans



 
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