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Elon Musk - The Ultimate Bait and Switch Con Artist
May 26, 2019, 01:44 PM
bigdealElon Musk - The Ultimate Bait and Switch Con Artist
You can read the story below, but I truly believe stuff like this is going to unwind Elon. Promise the future and deliver the past is not a winning game plan.
Elon Musk Says ‘Hyperloop’ Tunnel Is Now Just a Normal Car Tunnel Because ‘This Is Simple and Just Works’
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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
May 26, 2019, 01:55 PM
mbinkyHe is, was, and always shall be a con artist.
May 26, 2019, 01:55 PM
chellim1quote:
To recap: Musk’s company spent two years developing a very narrow car tunnel. To anyone who ever believed Elon Musk’s bullshit: you’ve been had.

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor May 26, 2019, 02:03 PM
FenderBenderYea, nothing he ever does works.
May 26, 2019, 02:41 PM
bigdealquote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
Yea, nothing he ever does works.
Just stop it.
Tesla ---> Teetering financially
Solar City ---> Teetering financially
Battery Venture with Panasonic ---> On hold or cancelled (depending on who you talk to.)
The Boring Company ---> Really???
Thank god SpaceX exists, because that seems to be Elon's one real success story.
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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
May 26, 2019, 03:07 PM
RHINOWSODude's only more successful that everyone on this forum, combined.
Just a con man, for sure.
Or maybe someone who assesses projects and modifies the path forward.
May 26, 2019, 03:15 PM
LS1 GTOquote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
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Originally posted by FenderBender:
Yea, nothing he ever does works.
Just stop it.
Tesla ---> Teetering financially
Solar City ---> Teetering financially
Battery Venture with Panasonic ---> On hold or cancelled (depending on who you talk to.)
The Boring Company ---> Really???
Thank god SpaceX exists, because that seems to be Elon's one real success story.
If you fail and quit, you learn nothing.

I don't believe he's a con man per say. I do believe he's come up with some great ideas which either were not correctly executed or are ahead of their time. IMO
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
May 26, 2019, 03:21 PM
mbinkyAll these pictures are cool but if he didn't con the government into giving him BILLIONS in subsidies they would have never been taken.
Howard Hughes he is not. He is the typical scam artist using peoples money to drive his ego. As to the success of Space X? Throw enough shit at a wall and some is bound to stick.
May 26, 2019, 03:25 PM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
All these pictures are cool but if he didn't con the government into giving him BILLIONS in subsidies they would have never been taken.
Howard Hughes he is not. He is the typical scam artist using peoples money to drive his ego. As to the success of Space X? Throw enough shit at a wall and some is bound to stick.
Yeah, they are paying him to launch shit into space.
Which is the government modus operandi, because they don't build or make things. They pay people / companies to do that. Been that way forever.
It's understandable that haters are gonna hate. I certainly don't think he's perfect, but like I said before he's done more than everyone here, combined.
But it's always funny to watch y'all complain.

May 26, 2019, 03:28 PM
mbinkyquote:
Yeah, they are paying him to launch shit into space.
Yup. That's what subsidy means. Unfortunately the .gov has given him subsidies for man other things. And that has been pissing money down the drain. Because he is a con artist. That's what con artists do.
May 26, 2019, 03:29 PM
RAMIUSThe dude accomplishes more before noon than you probably can in your whole life.
He’s a workaholic and it’s cool to have people of his sort in this country. I’d rather my kid look up to him than some dumb NBA player.
I’m not even sure he enjoys his billions, he’s too busy trying to run 700 complex projects.
May 26, 2019, 03:32 PM
mbinkyquote:
The dude accomplishes more before noon than you probably can in your whole life.
Nope. Unless fleecing the American taxpayer is considered honorable.
May 26, 2019, 03:37 PM
1s1kquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
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The dude accomplishes more before noon than you probably can in your whole life.
Nope. Unless fleecing the American taxpayer is considered honorable.
I’m curious if you have the same view of Trump or the thousands of others who have used our tax money on their projects.
May 26, 2019, 03:38 PM
RAMIUSI enjoy him fleecing me because I like is projects and he does some interesting shit.
#FleeceMeHardElon
May 26, 2019, 03:39 PM
mbinkyUsing tax money is not the issue. It is the way he aquired it that is, specifically with reguards to Tesla.
Establishing a plan of action, asking for money, and delivering product is fine. Dumping tax money into a black hole is not.
May 26, 2019, 03:41 PM
RAMIUSquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
Using tax money is not the issue. It is the way he aquired it that is, specifically with reguards to Tesla.
I think you’re just jealous that you don’t send rockets into space.
May 26, 2019, 03:48 PM
mbinkyquote:
I think you’re just jealous that you don’t send rockets into space
Naw, just jealous I didn't find a way to fleece the taxpayer to make myself rich

May 26, 2019, 03:56 PM
RichardCIf .gov hadn't conned us taxpayers into billions and billions, we wouldn't have Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and the Space Shuttle.
If taxpayers have to subsidize something/anything, I d far rather it be ROCKETS than welfare.
So there's that.
Besides, I am all against pork barrel politics, except when its MY backyard porkbarrel politics.
So, there's that, too.

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May 26, 2019, 04:08 PM
RAMIUSquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
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I think you’re just jealous that you don’t send rockets into space
Naw, just jealous I didn't find a way to fleece the taxpayer to make myself rich
If you figure out a way, I’m in!!
May 26, 2019, 04:17 PM
Black92LXquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
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I think you’re just jealous that you don’t send rockets into space
Naw, just jealous I didn't find a way to fleece the taxpayer to make myself rich
Pretty sure he founded PayPal to get rich.
He currently follows the rules to get tax subsidies. There rules are there to get money and he is doing it.
Hard to fault someone who is actually doing something with innovation.
Far more than any of us doing anything. He’s not doing it unlawfully. More power to him.
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