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ITYM "Google Now." Google+ is a social media thing kind of like Facebook or Twitter.
Which I did, for the Google Now launcher. The main thing for which I needed it, the absolute most useful purpose it would have had, would have been voice dialing. Google fracked it up. So I've turned the verkakte thing off.
Don't have any of those. (N.B.: Samsung was caught capturing and logging everything their smart TVs "heard," a few months back. There was a big brouhaha about it. Another example of why I wouldn't own a "smart" Samsung product.)
Nope. With OnStar you have to push the little blue button. At least in my vehicle, you do. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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People can say what they want about iPhones. I don't much like them, myself. But, I will say this: They're a damn sight more stable and secure than Google's Android crapware, which I now put in roughly the same category as MS-Windows  (Except with MS-Windows there's a chance the vulnerabilities will eventually get patched.)
I thought the same thing, but, my "phone" also has navigation software (road, off-road and marine), an encrypted keyring that contains every password, pass phrase, PIN, account number, etc. for my whole life, calendar, every personal contact in my life, etc. Since I won't stop living, post-retirement, some of those things will still be useful  But I may finally become fed up with Android and Make The Switch. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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you stole my name. ALexa can be renamed, as well as "ok google." What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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Exactly, I want my own Jarvis... Not his retarded infant cousin who can't keep a secret, so to speak. I want one where I control what it does and who it asks and where it looks, and so on, on a case by case basis, preferably that's open source and available on GitHub for examinations and modifications, and whose sole purpose and sponsor isn't primarily focused on selling me shit in a direct sense and selling my data to others who want to sell me *their* shit. Again, I do like aspects of the idea of these, but it's not ready yet, not for me at least. When it can differentiate between "Jarvis, ask Wolfram Alpha to convert 6 Moles of used Nike Golf Balls to Volume measured in cubic feet (which I can then say: and Save as PDF and send to my primary Email and CC Bob Smith)" from "Jarvis, ask Wikipedia about (whatever)", to "Jarvis, play the Good Eats episode on Fried Chicken (which it first looks in my collection before even thinking about playing from Netflix or whomever)", then I'll be super excited, truly. Also, 99% of the time, I never listen to online streaming music (much less compressed/lossy music when I have a choice), I listen to my own local collection of meticulously curated and primarily lossless tunes. And until it can "Jarvis, play the lossless Japan-only release of (insert band) but send a 320MP3 set to my girlfriend's iPhone" it doesn't do much for me. I can already call up oodles of playlists (themed and otherwise) with ease, from multiple rooms around the house and garage, and sync multiple devices, sometimes faster than I can explain it. Further, via Smart Playlists mine already learns from my listening habits and preferences and makes new Playlists automatically, and more. And my system already proactively pulls the weather from several locations I monitor, and has for years, and scrolls through them constantly, which I already glance at a few times a day without typing or saying a thing to anyone. Most of which (music and TV included) happens from a program (JRiver) that was a whopping $50 and never requires me to "update to the newest version" or even nags me to do so (I run a stable 2yo version). Jarvis needs to "work for me", as in employment/ownership, not "be a knowledgeable guest that works for Amazon" who tries to guess what I like to buy, and who might not be loyal, or might bury some obscure and questionable function in the legalese/EULA no one reads. And, it needs to know my voice from a handyman there to fix the furnace, such that they can't be like "Jarvis, stream NASCAR to living room TV", or the teenage kid of a visiting friend can't stream elephant porn in the bathroom while no one is looking, etc. Like Balze said, it also needs to be able to "Jarvis, record everything for the next 24hrs (and it knows that means all audio and video from predefined set of locations)" or "Jarvis, archive the last 30min of the front door security" if some weirdo came knocking and made me suspicious, and the like, or "Jarvis, show me the back gate and NW corner of the fence". That stuff is truly useful. Being able to easily reorder toilet paper from Amazon or stream the newest Brittany Spears song from some online service or convert teaspoons to tablespoons are gimmicks I don't have a lot of use for and/or don't do much for me that I'm not already doing, usually better. No Siri or SmartTVs here, either, no grocery store cards under a real name, no Facebook on my TV, no ads in my browser, no commercials on my TV, no connected door lock or HVAC thermostat, much less a "smart" Hot Water Heater that records how much water I used a certain day, much less one that might tell the Long Shower Police that I stood under the hot water for 45min two days in a row, or whatever. Not today, and not ever, thanks. Soon, though, as in a few years - I'd guess, I can have Jarvis rather than his grandma Dot, who history will view as silly, of limited use, too early, and a disloyal blabbermouth. | |||
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Precisely. Years ago I had a "dumb" wireless phone that had voice recognition. Admittedly: I had to train it, but, it's ability to recognize the number I wanted dialed has been unmatched since then. My brand new fancy, schmancy "smart" phone can't dial one of my addressbook entries without the "help" of Google's cloud and doesn't even get it right with that help. Like I wrote, earlier: So bad I finally just turned it off. This is progress? "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Wow, that makes their advertising very misleading. Their commercials lead prospective consumers to believe that the OnStar agents can remotely initiate communications with the vehicle occupants when they are notified by the vehicle that there has been a crash. I'm surprised that GM would remove that functionality from the features set. I wonder why they did it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And it's time that particularly, some of our corporations learned, that when you get in bed with government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep." - Ronald Reagan | |||
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Saw this today. Cops asking for 'Alexa' data in murder case: https://www.mail.com/news/us/4...#.23140-stage-set8-4 Endowment Life Member, NRA • Member of FPC, GOA, 2AF & Arizona Citizens Defense League | |||
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I was talking about in normal operation. I'm not going to crash my car to test it, but, I presume that, if you're an OnStar subscriber, a crash bad enough to deploy the air bags activates the system, too. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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If alexa could buy all WLW at retail from all websites at once youd be walkin round rock hard..., lol. I got rid of my google plus cause the limitations. Supposedly google learns as you use it more which is a plus. What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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Alexa, get of off my cloud. No one has figured out my high jinx yet.  | |||
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If you have nothing to hide........... | |||
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| Conveniently located directly above the center of the Earth  |
as a recent iPhone 5 upgrade from flip phone Luddite, this thread is simply chilling. Most of the stuff listed...I simply don't do, have no interest in doing, and have no need for an electronic 'assistant'. Maybe when I can program one to split and stack the firewood.... | |||
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For those of you with Android phones...say "ok google" and see what happens. I'll bet 95% of you don't know you're carrying one of these things around in your pocket every day. Apple does it with Siri. ____________________________ NRA Benefactor Life Member GOA Life Member Arizona Citizens Defense League Life Member | |||
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When I setup my iPhone, you had to give it permission to activate "Hello, Siri" otherwise the default is that you have to press the home button for Siri to start listening for an instruction. _________________________ Their system of ethics, which regards treachery and violence as virtues rather than vices, has produced a code of honour so strange and inconsistent, that it is incomprehensible to a logical mind. -Winston Churchill, writing of the Pashtun | |||
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I'll bet most people don't understand that and are walking around with one of these things listening in their pocket all day. They then get on here and say they would never have one in their house. At least on my echo/dot I can hit the microphone off button or pull the plug and it is harmless. ____________________________ NRA Benefactor Life Member GOA Life Member Arizona Citizens Defense League Life Member | |||
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Nope, never used siri. Have it completely disabled. Never use voice to text or any voice control for that matter. Just like I have no problem typing in a search address on a map app, I have no problem dialing the pizza joint to order. | |||
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Nothing. I turned "Google always listening to you" off. (When I was still using Android.)
Is this another attempt to convince people purposely putting listening devices in one's home is a Good Idea?
Not if you disable "Siri listening to you all the time." Oh, and, btw: Apple does not harvest the information you share with it for marketing purposes. Try reading Google's and Amazon's terms, sometime, then Apple's.
Apple’s commitment to your privacy One of the many reasons I'm now an iThing user. (Cue the "there is no privacy on the Internet anyway" crowd...) "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I know that Google listens to your conversations. My wife was talking about a very specific item the other day. She went to use her phone, and there were targeted adds showing the item that we had talked about. Gotta love big brother. Here is another one - wife hired some carpet cleaners to clean the carpets the other day. We dont know these guys, never met them before. My wife is surfing Facebook, and in the area where it says "Do you know this person" was both carpet cleaners profiles. Apparently, by my guess, Facebook was able to link them to my wife's account perhaps via the GPS proximity since those guys were close to us/in our house, Facebook thought that we might know them. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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