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Originally posted by RichardC:
At a time when we have any number of devices tracking and automating our habits at home, should that information be used against us in criminal cases?"

Count on it.

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Count on it.

Yup. Although if you got some "minister" to marry you to Alexa, would spousal privilege apply?

I love mine. The one in the kitchen is especially useful as a timer and units converter. It will even walk you through a huge number of recipes, although I haven't tried this yet.

"Alexa, set the timer for 15 minutes."
"Alexa, how many teaspoons in a cup?"

If you're planning to do something dastardly, you can always turn it off -- it contains no batteries. If Jeff Bezos has people monitoring me, I have they'd best have plenty of espresso available.

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Originally posted by mbinky:

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Count on it.

Yup. Although if you got some "minister" to marry you to Alexa, would spousal privilege apply?

I've made all sorts of sexual overtures to her and have been gently rebuffed.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:

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Originally posted by mbinky:

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Count on it.

Yup. Although if you got some "minister" to marry you to Alexa, would spousal privilege apply?

I've made all sorts of sexual overtures to her and have been gently rebuffed.

I imagine you'll keep trying though.

We have an echo and a few Dots.

We bought smart plugs and switches use it to turn on lights and heaters and control the thermostat.

Use it also to play music and gety the weather.

We like them.

Let it record me, I don't care.

I ordered one for my wife after she made a meh face at one of her gifts. It comes tomorrow and I think she will enjoy it in the kitchen.

We have an echo upstairs and a dot downstairs.

We use it to stream music, great for playing christmas music for ambiance all december. The wife checks weather with it. The 5 year old boy talks to it...but doesn't ever get anywhere.

It ordered something randomly once, that freaked us out. Had to disable that "feature".

I use it to turn lights on (philips hue color led bulbs in nearly every fixture in the house), and turn the vehicle heaters on or off (tp link smart plugs). It isn't a fully figured out technology yet, but the software is upgrade-able...so as things get better (more intuitive), you don't have to buy a new one.

More smart compatible devices are coming out daily. More Alexa-Skills are being added daily.

As mentioned, if I was planning to do something illegal, I'd simply unplug the power. Neither have a built in battery. My cell phone would be more likely to spy on me with google, as it probably already is. Any evidence gathered using one of these devices SHOULD only help my case if every used. I'm sure when the evidence doesn't support the prosecution, it'll be promptly "lost".

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by Deqlyn:
I am not sure why you guys are worried about spying, I guess I get it but I assume none of you have smart phones which can be turned into a microphone at any time via hacking etc...

Oh come on. Do you really think this is comparable? No one is hacking my phone and listening to my conversations in my living room.

The very real truth though is that this device does indeed record your conversations and stores those conversations off site. I get that many of you don't care and chalk it up to "it's the way things are now," but not me. I'm not inviting that type of intrusion into my home. And don't try to convince me that I already have since I have a smartphone because that's simply not true at all.

I failed to mention mine has a mute button.

But you dont have google + or siri? It is always listening. No different unless you turn the microphone off. Same with chromebooks, laptops, new tvs. Im just sayin if youre gonna be a bear, be a grizzly.

I didnt even mention, onstar, location services, apple/ google cloud. Voluntarily putting your info out there. Anyways maybe for another thread.

I don't use google + or siri; my tv is not smart and I disable my laptop camera/microphone in the BIOS. I have no use for them; I never "face time" (I'm ugly). Onstar? I drive a 1999 Suzuki with 254k miles. No onstar. As far as location services on my iPhone I control them as much as I can, i.e, ask me for permission every time. I also use a VPN (on the phone) Cloud services? You mean I can request rain? All info is held on local drives. I use smartmail email now; got away from yahoo.

Like I said, I had to give big brother access to every facet of my life for my job. I don't have to give it to anyone else. Especially people that make money off of it and don't give me a cut

And paying in cash? Well that just feels good

I've thought about picking one up but haven't taken the plunge yet. Not sure if I'd use it enough.

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Originally posted by mbinky:
I don't use google + or siri; my tv is not smart and I disable my laptop camera/microphone in the BIOS. I have no use for them; I never "face time" (I'm ugly). Onstar? I drive a 1999 Suzuki with 254k miles. No onstar. As far as location services on my iPhone I control them as much as I can, i.e, ask me for permission every time. I also use a VPN (on the phone) Cloud services? You mean I can request rain? All info is held on local drives. I use smartmail email now; got away from yahoo.

Like I said, I had to give big brother access to every facet of my life for my job. I don't have to give it to anyone else. Especially people that make money off of it and don't give me a cut

And paying in cash? Well that just feels good

I see whatcha did there

This was just posted on Penny-Arcade.com:

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Originally posted by RichardC:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/...io-data-murder-case/


Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case (updated)

Yep. Very apt timing for this discussion. That case is from my neck of the woods.

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Originally posted by Paragon:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...540239?client=safari

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"The Amazon Echo device is constantly listening for the "wake" command of "Alexa" or "Amazon," and records any command, inquiry, or verbal gesture given after that point, or possibly at all times without the "wake word" being issued

How much do they actually record? That seems to be a key question. I've read a few articles but nothing really seems to be a definite on how much is recorded.

When I got my iPhone 7 that message popped up telling me every time I voice text my voice is sent to Apple.
Shut off and quit using voice text.

As soon as I am able, I'm gonna pitch my POS Apple phone in the creek.

Come on retirement!!

Bob

Is it too Jennerfied if I want to rename Alexis to Hal?

Just curious. What if I actually want to record a conversation? Can I say, "Alexa, record for the next hour." Like if you have a break in or something or if the cops are in your home and you want to get the conversation on record. Can it do that? Record everything for a set amount of time?

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by RichardC:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/...io-data-murder-case/


Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case (updated)

Yep. Very apt timing for this discussion. That case is from my neck of the woods.

Fox News same story

Yep, not putting one of those things in my house.