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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
I believe that everyone knows that the only reason there are issues with iOS to Android messaging (blue-box vs. green-box), is due to Apple downgrading the texts to SMS,

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
It’s time for Apple to fix texting.

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
Yes, one can jump through hoops to communicate with the latest tech advances, if they so choose... Apple is the only device manufacturer that makes their following have to go to such lengths to communicate utilizing modern messaging platforms.

I think that would fall under the definition of "Stifle".

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... RCS requires a mobile data connection to do its thing in the same way as iMessage, WhatsApp, and other messaging services. SMS still runs over a voice-only cellular connection. It can and should remain as a fallback for those times when you have no Wi-Fi or cellular data available. The Google Messages app can already do this between RCS and SMS in the same way that Apple’s Messages app has been handling iMessage and SMS since its inception.
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However, that collaboration ultimately fell apart, leaving RCS largely in the hands of Google. That may have been a good thing in the end, as the CCMI had reportedly planned to create its own standalone RCS app that would have ended up being yet another third-party messaging app. By comparison, Google had already integrated RCS into its re-branded Google Messages app, like the SMS replacement that it’s intended to be.

Instead, carriers and manufacturers have gradually adopted Google Messages as the default messaging app on all their devices. Even Samsung, which has its own RCS-compatible Samsung Messages app, positions Google Messages as the default on its new smartphones. Although Samsung Messages is preinstalled as an alternative and can be switched to the default for those who prefer to use that instead, it still uses the exact same RCS standard found in Google Messages.

For its part, Google has added its own extension to RCS to support end-to-end encryption in Google Messages — something that’s currently not part of the RCS Universal Standard.

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
Yes, one can jump through hoops to communicate with the latest tech advances, if they so choose... Apple is the only device manufacturer that makes their following have to go to such lengths to communicate utilizing modern messaging platforms.

I think that would fall under the definition of "Stifle".

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Originally posted by architect:
I suspect this has more to do with Apple Store policies than anything inherent in the marketing of the phones themselves. They severely restrict certain apps and features that compete with their own software offerings, disallowing access to the Store in the name of "security" when it is actually intended to suppress competition. This results in fewer choices for their users. But, yes, it is kind of a BS lawsuit, Apple's deep pockets may have some relevance...or, perhaps, in an election year they want to be able to say, "see we don't just go after Conservative companies."

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Justice Department sues Apple, alleging it illegally monopolized the smartphone market

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
So your position is that Apple be obliged to adopt a competitor's messaging standard, is it?

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Maybe you should've read your own link. Essentially you're demanding Apple throw iMessage and SMS/MMS aside to implement a protocol that is clearly dominated by a competitor: Google.

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
No one is saying that they should implement the Google standard.
Apple will be supporting RCS standard features later this year.

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Not to be outdone by Google, the big three U.S. carriers — AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon — made RCS plans of their own in 2019.
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However, that collaboration ultimately fell apart, leaving RCS largely in the hands of Google.
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... carriers and manufacturers have gradually adopted Google Messages as the default messaging app on all their devices.

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For its part, Google has added its own extension to RCS to support end-to-end encryption in Google Messages — something that’s currently not part of the RCS Universal Standard.

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:
Much like how they drug their feet on changing from Lightening ports to USB-C charging; ...

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Originally posted by American Pit Bull:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
So your position is that Apple be obliged to adopt a competitor's messaging standard, is it?

Being that RCS not a "competitor's standard", but rather a GSMA messaging protocol that is the successor to SMS/MMS.. I am not onboard with that argument.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Maybe you should've read your own link. Essentially you're demanding Apple throw iMessage and SMS/MMS aside to implement a protocol that is clearly dominated by a competitor: Google.

No one is saying that they should implement the Google standard.
Apple will be supporting RCS standard features later this year.

Much like how they drug their feet on changing from Lightening ports to USB-C charging; the lack of RSC features was all about propriety leverage. They hold out as long as they can.


It is interesting that there are individuals who feel that standardizing communication protocols is a bad thing.
Apple is well known for it's anti-consumer practices and forcing it's sheep users into propriety entanglement.
The removal of all ports on MacBook and replacement with only propriety Thunderbolt ports.. iTunes DRM was huge a decade ago and now their iTunes purchases are DRM-free and transferable to other devices. Batterygate (planned obsolescence) was an interesting one that the Apple fanboi's readily ignore.

Don't get me wrong.. The marketing scheme is great. Roping users in and locking them into future use of one's products is the ultimate scheme and I can respect the game.
Literally forcing your consumers to upgrade devices by slowing them down, and then users joyfully following suite.. -it doesn't get much better!

Jailbreaking/rooting iPhones in the 2000's and moding open source apps back in the day, was more fun than necessity. It also highlighted how much Apple hates the open source community.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
What color are the messages on Android-to-Android texts? Are the green? I don't know, because I have never used a non-Apple smartphone.

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Originally posted by onegeek:
You literally don’t seem to understand the meaning of the word literally.

Or proprietary.

Or locking.

Or forcing.

Only the Federal government is literally trying to force anything here.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Or did Apple just refuse to make their last few political donations?

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“The Department of Justice has an enduring legacy taking on the biggest and toughest monopolies in history,” said Assistant Attorney General Jonathan Kanter, head of the antitrust division, at a press conference announcing the lawsuit.

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Originally posted by onegeek:
So you’re saying no one was literally forced or locked into anything?

So you’ve got nothing but a personal dislike?

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
^^^^^
Re: “not just a personal opinion.”
Yeah, it’s the opinion of Biden’s so called DOJ.

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Originally posted by DanH:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
What color are the messages on Android-to-Android texts? Are the green? I don't know, because I have never used a non-Apple smartphone.

It depends on the app you are using. Some even let you select different colors for different people.