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Mixing regular old fossile fuel gas with the ethanol fuel in cars

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May 12, 2020, 08:03 AM
bendable
Mixing regular old fossile fuel gas with the ethanol fuel in cars
When I fill up I always use the fossil fuel gas, Three times in three months , the neighbor wanted me to let her buy my gas for driving her on errands.

but she had to buy the cheap Costco ethanol stuff,
so all three times I put about a half a tank full in the car,

and all three times , within about 100 miles ( four or five days) I noticed either a slight rough idle at start up, or the check engine light would come on.

My mechanic said that using two gasses should not cause any problems.

unless it ( the ethanol ) had water in it

any thoughts on this ?

should I not be mixing the two types of gas?





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May 12, 2020, 08:14 AM
BigSwede
Shouldn't be a problem. If you had a check engine light come on, you should have a code that your mechanic can read



May 12, 2020, 08:15 AM
maladat
The ethanol gas isn't pure ethanol (alcohol), it's already a mix, typically 90% normal gas and 10% ethanol. Mixing it with ethanol-free gas would just dilute the ethanol further and shouldn't cause any problems the ethanol gas wouldn't cause in the first place.
May 12, 2020, 08:18 AM
ArtieS
I'm with the "no problems at all" crowd.



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May 12, 2020, 08:25 AM
HK Ag
I am curious where do you find ethanol free gas?

all the branded filling stations around the greater Houston area sell ethanol blends as far as I have witnessed.

One exception being Buc-ees location on 290 it has an island that has signs up stating ethanol free. Unfortunately it is just too far to drive to.

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May 12, 2020, 08:27 AM
Wayniac
If by “cheap ethanol stuff” you mean E-85; no, you shouldn’t put this in your vehicle unless it is specifically designed to burn it.



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May 12, 2020, 08:33 AM
sigcrazy7
Costco doesn’t sell E85 AFAIK.



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May 12, 2020, 08:39 AM
oldbill123
Costco's fuel is top tier. Maybe you are not used to getting the detergents in your gas
May 12, 2020, 08:40 AM
lastmanstanding
I mix all the time. I have a 2016 Expedition with the Eco-Boost dual fuel engine. When I'm towing I fill with non ethanol which is what the manual suggests but I always have some ethanol in at the time. Now with the cheap gas prices I'm buying more non ethanol. All my small engine stuff gets non ethanol lawnmower, chain saw, pontoon and the side by side get nothing but non ethanol.


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May 12, 2020, 08:46 AM
chellim1
quote:
I am curious where do you find ethanol free gas?

https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=IL

quote:
All my small engine stuff gets non ethanol lawnmower, chain saw, pontoon and the side by side get nothing but non ethanol.

Same here. Small engines have small carburetors which easily get gummed up.



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May 12, 2020, 08:46 AM
bendable
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May 12, 2020, 08:50 AM
bendable
quote:
Originally posted by HK Ag:
I am curious where do you find ethanol free gas?


HK Ag
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The Hy-Vee gas stations have it here in the quad cities.





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May 12, 2020, 09:28 AM
Perception
Mixing those fuels is not causing your problem. Take the car to AutoZone or one of the other parts stores and have them read the codes. Those places aren't perfect, but it will at least point you in the direction of the actual problem.




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May 12, 2020, 09:33 AM
HRK
quote:
I am curious where do you find ethanol free gas?



WaWa stations carry it here and wherever you can WaWa, along with good coffee, great apple fritters
May 12, 2020, 09:45 AM
BigSwede
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
quote:
I am curious where do you find ethanol free gas?



WaWa stations carry it here and wherever you can WaWa, along with good coffee, great apple fritters


Race Tracs have it here, I believe they have red pump handles to indicate Ethanol free



May 12, 2020, 10:00 AM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
quote:
I am curious where do you find ethanol free gas?

https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=IL
Their app is even better since it's map based and not merely a list. For the iPhone it even lets me chose the map application (Google Maps, Waze, or Apple Maps) for navigation. For example, I knew about the website but it's a long list for Texas so I didn't realize there was an ethanol free station about a 1/2 block off one of my favorite country rides on my motorcycle.



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May 12, 2020, 12:01 PM
bendable
When my mechanic reads the codes, nothing comes up. But then by then the even though the check engine light is still on, it is not still rough ideling . ( Ain't it always the way)





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May 12, 2020, 12:08 PM
Puckpilot78
Check your gas cap, especially since this seems to happen after filling up. If it’s loose or worn and not sealing properly can cause the ck eng light to come on. Unless it’s brand new I’d just buy a new one and see what happens.



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May 12, 2020, 12:08 PM
WaterburyBob
The check engine light can come on for a gas cap that wasn't tightened properly.



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May 12, 2020, 02:34 PM
DonDraper
Does your car require an octane above 87? Costco is known to have quality gas, regardless of ethenal being present. Definitely doesn't cause an issue to mix the two otherwise.


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