Well I guess it's a non issue as I stopped by the office as I was in the vicinity.

The nice girl winced a bit and then accepted my cash,
But she also
Said that other arrangements would need to be made in the future.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
You need to use cash at the Illinois Marijuana dispensaries. No credit cards or checks. They have armed guards.

This is because marijuana is still federally illegal, and therefore they can't utilize the credit card processing or bank check processing networks for illegal transactions.

Their only option is to accept cash. But then they also can't deposit this cash at a federally insured (FDIC) bank for the same reason.

So they end up either having to keep their pile of cash safe themselves at a (hopefully) secure location, or band together with other dispensaries to have their own uninsured non-federally-recognized private bank.

There's an entire subindustry in states who have legalized weed for stuff like private dispensary banking along with security for the storage/transport of the large quantities of cash involved.

When I asked why they made the decision to discontinue cash payments she was not given any reason .

She did not know why

Our schools have stopped taking cash for tickets to sporting events. You have to buy them online. I think it's partly a safety issue if not also easier accounting.

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Originally posted by shoevb:
Our schools have stopped taking cash for tickets to sporting events. You have to buy them online. I think it's partly a safety issue if not also easier accounting.

Back when I was an SRO, one of my duties was to provide a security escort for the person with the bank bag containing the cash from ticket and concession sales at the end of the night.

I'll tell you, most of those school ladies were terrified of being robbed when they had that bank bag. (To the point of being unreasonably paranoid.)

So in that light, given the choice, I suspect most school workers would jump at the chance of not having to sweat handling the bundle of cash and just sell everything online.

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
Had a local business tell me that. I got out a dollar bill and read "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

They said "I don't care, no cash."

I left.

^^^ exactly the right thing to do.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
It is a push to go completely digital so we are controlled more by the whims of those in government.
They want and I might say are getting more and more control over what we do and say.

Inasmuch as you will be tagged a conspiratorialist and a loon - I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
So am I.
The potential for anything with a central point of control is dangerous.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
It is a push to go completely digital so we are controlled more by the whims of those in government. They want and I might say are getting more and more control over what we do and say.

Yes, part of it is the war on illegal trade and drugs, no cash makes it hard to have street transactions for your meth or pot sales. Mostly it's control, access to data to mine, and forced tax revenue compliance

So it all comes back to the good people are allowing the bad people to spoil it for the many.

Now if we made all drugs legal , there would be no illegal drug money. . . . .
Or
Do we just start killing the druggies ?

H m m m m
Something to ponder

Interesting facts - There are about 48 million people who do not use bank accounts regularly judging from the rough numbers in the linked article BamaJeepster posted. And many of the states that require everyone to accept cash as payment are Blue states.
That's a lot of people and you'd think those Blue states would want the most control over taxation, but have laws mandating acceptance of cash.

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Originally posted by bendable:
So it all comes back to the good people are allowing the bad people to spoil it for the many.

Now if we made all drugs legal , there would be no illegal drug money. . . . .
Or
Do we just start killing the druggies ?

H m m m m
Something to ponder

Already 300 people a day bendable…

Imagine a 777 with 300 people on it crashing every day. That is the current situation/reality.

How’s that working for you… get anyone in your family yet?

Number one killer of men in the USA from the age of 40 down to zero. More men have died in this age group in the last year than the previous three years combined.

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So it all comes back to the good people are allowing the bad people to spoil it for the many.

The good people being those that believe in using paper currency, and the bad people being those that believe it should all be electronic.

The government doesn't care about the drug dealers. They pretend to care, but what would they do if a genie snapped his fingers and they all went away? They wouldn't have assets to seize, and they wouldn't be able to use it as justification to take your tax dollars for the associated law enforcement. Drugs are big business.

Capone went to prison for tax evasion. That's what the government cares about. They care about money and power. If they can get everything to go electronic, then they'll have all of the money, and all of the power.

You won't be able to conduct any sort of business that goes against what they agree with, and if they don't like you for whatever reason you're simply shut off. Mean tweet? Good luck paying your power bill this winter.

They don't have to freeze you bank account for a mean tweet to cut off your power. Their buddies at the power company will gladly do it for them with the smart meter. Just a "glitch".

If its less than 5 bucks I pay cash. If not, I use a "cash back" credit card and pay it off at the end of the month. If it gets hacked (and of course it will) I fall back on my debit card until it can be replaced.
If a business turns down my small purchase for cash, I wont use them again.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
If you're transacting business within the US, using US banks, in US dollars, then you should be required to accept US currency.

Nonsense. I'll take more freedom over less, including the right to refuse payment of a means that could sometimes equate to my having to carry an absurd amount of cash to the bank to deposit. In this world of rapidly diminishing freedoms, I can still refuse the stress that comes with that and my wanting to choose that shouldn't mean I can't legally do business.

I'm currently working on creating a small business from home, and my model doesn't account for cash sales in any way since it's all online. Would I gladly accept a payment form that allows someone across the country to purchase my goods without the government having a detailed record of it? Sure, but the window on cryptocurrency is closing. I agree, it's none of their goddamn business, but I extend that attitude to customers who want to tell me how I should run a business: If I don't want to take cash, that's none of your goddamn business, either.

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Originally posted by bendable:
So it all comes back to the good people are allowing the bad people to spoil it for the many.

Now if we made all drugs legal , there would be no illegal drug money. . . . .
Or
Do we just start killing the druggies ?

H m m m m
Something to ponder

I've seen you post some bizarre things before, but surely you aren't advocating a genocide of American citizens with a mental illness? I like you, Bendable, but this is perhaps one of those topics where you're out of your depth. You might just stick to being mad about change you don't like. At least that's entirely subjective.

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Nonsense. I'll take more freedom over less, including the right to refuse payment of a means that could sometimes equate to my having to carry an absurd amount of cash to the bank to deposit. In this world of rapidly diminishing freedoms, I can still refuse the stress that comes with that and my wanting to choose that shouldn't mean I can't legally do business.

I'm certainly not advocating for less freedom. I'm merely advocating for a seller performing on their offer.

Accept whatever payment you like. Barter however you wish. But don't offer something for sale for "Four Dollars" and then refuse to accept "Four Dollars" as payment.

If you have chickens, and your neighbor has cows, the two of you may decide to exchange eggs for milk. Imagine the neighbor saying he would accept 2 dozen eggs for 1 gallon of milk, you show up with 2 dozen eggs, and then he tells you that he doesn't accept eggs as payment.

If you don't want dollars, don't accept dollars. But don't advertise that something is available for dollars then refuse those dollars when presented as payment.

Anyone advocating for cashless anything must have been sleeping when Hong Kong happened, or Canada “debanked” their own citizens that were protesting vaccine/shutdown requirements.

Sad to see it.

If this society goes cashless… People will just start their own banks. Black market economies have existed since the beginning of time.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
I'm certainly not advocating for less freedom. I'm merely advocating for a seller performing on their offer.

Accept whatever payment you like. Barter however you wish. But don't offer something for sale for "Four Dollars" and then refuse to accept "Four Dollars" as payment.

If you have chickens, and your neighbor has cows, the two of you may decide to exchange eggs for milk. Imagine the neighbor saying he would accept 2 dozen eggs for 1 gallon of milk, you show up with 2 dozen eggs, and then he tells you that he doesn't accept eggs as payment.

If you don't want dollars, don't accept dollars. But don't advertise that something is available for dollars then refuse those dollars when presented as payment.

A dollar is just a unit of measure/value. A dollar bill is a piece of paper with the denomination written on it.

Saying something costs 4 dollars does not imply 4 dollar bills. You are saying that I can assume if you say it's 4 dollars that means you accept 4 dollars worth of bitcoins. The method of payment accepted is up to the seller - bills have no more relevance than crypto coins.

And just to be clear, I am not advocating a cashless society at all. Even though in my daily life I am mostly cashless, I would fight a cashless society tooth and nail. I would not be in favor of forcing a business to accept cash though.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

Ok, so we agree words mean things. Our language being tricky, that's why we've further sliced the pie down to "dollar bills," "cash," or "paper and coin currency." If I list my products online, and state that something is "four dollars" and someone tries to pay with an online method, but I tell them "no, I said four dollars. I will accept an envelope delivered to my address with four crisp Washingtons" they're going to tell me to get fucked. So when a retail establishment says "we do not accept cash" and you walk in and show them a dollar bill, who is being silly? "I demand you do it thusly" is not something free men tell each other.

Track you to debank you.
State legal marijuana can’t deposit into federal legal bank.
And people afraid to carry cash especially in light of their government saying it’s ok to steal under $1000.

Seems shameful to have such discussion on Pearl Harbor Day.