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Party is over, assholes.

FBI closed DEI office in December, agency says
President-elect Trump will take office on Monday

By Kelley Kramer , Brie Stimson | Fox News
Published January 16, 2025 3:26pm EST

EXCLUSIVE: The FBI has closed its DEI office, Fox News can confirm.

"In recent weeks, the FBI took steps to close the Office of Diversity and Inclusion (ODI), effective by December 2024," the agency told Fox News Digital on Thursday.

Earlier this month, Republican Sen. Marsha Blackburn sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray claiming that "radical" DEI practices had "endangered" Americans following the New Year’s Day terrorist attack in New Orleans.

This is President Biden's last week in office. President-elect Trump will take office on Monday.


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Every last DEI hire needs to either resign or be publically FIRED, if ANY of them were involved with the Mar Lago raid, charged, tried and convicted in their own kangaroo court, then draconian sentenced.


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We are not going to settle scores, lest we become what we despised. We are better than that.

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This has nothing to do with settling scores. Just need to rid ourselves of the corruption that has run rampant through our government for too long.


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We are not going to settle scores, lest we become what we despised. We are better than that.

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No.They only understand force. It should be with the force of an angry god.


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The party can't be over as is suggested, since once you're in the Federal employee system, you can't be fired, you're there for life no matter how bad of an employee or person you are. The thousands of DEI hires that were placed without ability or merit, may be there for the next 30 years before they retire, and there's nothing you can do to get rid of them. Nothing, nada.




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Not to call you out, but that's just wrong. There is a process for getting rid of poor performers. As a manager in the fed, I got rid of several by following the process. The problem is, the process is cumbersome. The upside is, about half of the poor performers I followed the process with became really good employees. The other half are former employees.
 
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The party can't be over as is suggested, since once you're in the Federal employee system, you can't be fired, you're there for life no matter how bad of an employee or person you are...

Yes, I would like to know where you get this nonsense. Is there a law that says you can never fire a federal employee, that you are there for life once "you're in the system"?


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The party can't be over as is suggested, since once you're in the Federal employee system, you can't be fired, you're there for life no matter how bad of an employee or person you are...

Yes, I would like to know where you get this nonsense. Is there a law that says you can never fire a federal employee, that you are there for life once "you're in the system"?

Of course not. It's just so hard to do that in my experience it's a pretty rare occurrence. I'm talking Federal Civil Service, so if FBI has similar rules about firing existing employees, I would assume a similar failure rate close to what I observed.




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DEI is racial, sexual and political discrimination. Of course it’s unsustainable in a constitutional republic with equal justice for all.



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Well, I totally agree with Trump here, but his order has no force of law as a POTUS-elect. He should have had Jim Jordan or some committee chairs order it.
 
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The party can't be over as is suggested, since once you're in the Federal employee system, you can't be fired, you're there for life no matter how bad of an employee or person you are. The thousands of DEI hires that were placed without ability or merit, may be there for the next 30 years before they retire, and there's nothing you can do to get rid of them. Nothing, nada.


The Japanese have a term about “sits by a window” these are white collar employees that have no jobs. All they can do is report in and sit. The New York education system has “rubber rooms” of teachers that have been accused of some infraction. They just sit for months or years.



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Did they migrate all in that dept into the ranks of the FBI, or release them?


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Be aware that just because a department has closed, doesn't mean it hasn't metastasized in another department. Executives need to be aware and vigilant for this.


Are DEI Office Name Changes Enough?

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NNot long after Texas passed SB 17, a law prohibiting diversity, equity and inclusion programs at public colleges and universities, many institutions chose to rename their former DEI offices, using words like “belonging,” “community engagement” and “student development” in the new titles.

But last month, an anti-DEI legislator warned that cosmetic adjustments were not enough. Republican state senator Brandon Creighton, the lead sponsor of SB 17, wrote letters to Texas’s public university systems reminding them that compliance with the law goes beyond renaming offices.

“While I am encouraged with the progress I have seen from many institutions of higher education in implementing SB 17, I am deeply concerned with the possibility that many institutions may choose to merely rename their offices or employee titles,” he wrote. ”This letter should serve as notice that this practice is unacceptable.”

Last week the University of Texas at Austin announced it was closing its Division of Campus and Community Engagement—formerly its DEI division—and laying off 60 employees, according to the Austin American-Statesman.

UT Austin president Jay Hartzell said the change would cut down on programs that were duplicated amid the restructuring to comply with SB 17. But many in the UT Austin community and beyond chastised the institution for appearing to cow to anti-DEI politics beyond what was mandated by state law.

An editorial in the Austin American-Statesman slammed the state—“driven by Republican fervor to hunt down and crush what they’ve deemed ‘woke’ tendencies in education”—for “gnawing deeply into the reputation of its magnificent higher education system.”

Austin wasn’t the only UT campus to flip-flop. Last December the University of Texas at San Antonio announced it would close its DEI office and open an Office of Campus and Community Belonging instead. But on Jan. 2—the day after SB 17 went into effect—PresidentTaylor Eighmy backtracked, announcing that the new office would not open after all.

“Given our evolving understanding of SB 17 as well as continuing voluntary changes in staffing and personnel reappointments from that office, it no longer made sense to launch the new office,” Eighmy wrote in a statement to the campus community. “Instead, we will leverage the strong capabilities of our existing offices and divisions to realign ADA and disability services, campus climate and community engagement activities across various institutional divisions.”

He added that the “integrated approach” was more efficient for serving the campus.

DEI programs and practices have now been outlawed in some form or another in 10 states, with critics arguing that they demean and sideline white, cisgender, heterosexual students for characteristics they have no control over. Proponents of DEI, meanwhile, believe that such programs are essential for supporting students who have been historically marginalized, discriminated against or excluded from higher education.

Amid the debates, the phrase “diversity, equity and inclusion” itself has become just as fraught as the actual work it signifies. In December, just before SB 17 went into effect, one anonymous Texas employee told Inside Higher Ed that they have scrapped the phrase from their vocabulary entirely while at work.

“Those three words in particular are very triggering,” she said.

Despite pushback in Texas to what legislators perceive as purely aesthetic changes to DEI offices, institutions in other red states around the country are rushing to alter DEI language—even in states like South Carolina, that do not yet have legislation in place restricting DEI. Officials at many institutions argue the name changes are not in response to political pressure and are instead satisfying some part of their mission or strategy. But it remains to be seen how such adjustments will be received by DEI’s critics—especially lawmakers.

Motivated by ‘University Values’

In South Carolina, where the legislature has introduced but not yet passed any DEI bans, at least two public universities have nevertheless chosen to change the names of their DEI offices. The University of South Carolina changed its Office of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion to the Division of Access, Civil Rights and Community Engagement last summer; in December, Clemson University similarly renamed its former DEI office the Division of Community Engagement.

In an emailed statement to Inside Higher Ed, a spokesperson for Clemson said the name change is designed to “drive the concepts of community, engagement, belonging and access across the University in alignment with Clemson’s new strategic plan, Clemson Elevate, and to align with the University’s values.”

Likewise, University of South Carolina spokesperson Collyn Taylor described the change as a “reorganization,” stressing that the new division now houses the institution’s civil rights and Title IX offices, as well as various programs dedicated to community engagement and improving access “for all current and future students regardless of backgrounds.”

No programs, initiatives or roles have been eliminated in the reshuffling, Taylor wrote in an email.

When asked if the change was at all impacted by politics, he replied that “[South Carolina’s] policies will remain consistent with federal and state law.”

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Where DEI Departments are embedded within existing HR Departments, they are by definition still in force, regardless of any changes to their departmental name, officially or otherwise. IF the people in DEI are still in the HR department after their official DEI is renamed or eliminated, it's a sure sign that DEI practices are still in force, bypassing merit based hiring in place of hiring based on race and gender, and getting rid of older skilled productive employees that are the wrong color or wrong gender. They will not go out without a fight. It's sort of like Trump needing to clean house before he can affect positive change, but as long as HR departments continue hiring DEI candidates against merit based quals, even with their DEI depts offically dismantled, those former DEI workers are still doing their thing as normal, and managers and executives still will not fire any DEI employees for cause since they want to stay OUT of news, and don't want to be accused of being the anti-DEI supremacist of the month. The current DEI practices will remain in force for a long time no matter how official the current situation takes hold or not. DEI will still be with us for a long time as long as those people in those departments remain.




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