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No surprise here. https://x.com/mrddmia/status/1880063387272638886 ...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV | |||
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I was a manager at the Social Security Adm for a number of years before my retirement. My experience was similar to what you described. I would say that firing employees for bad conduct (as opposed to poor performance) was not that difficult. (Example - hitting a supervisor you have a disagreement with is conduct, not performance.) I had only one occasion to do that. They do have an appeal process (if they choose to use it), but the offending employee will be put on leave without pay until the process is completed and they are done. Removing an employee for poor performance was more difficult, but it can be done if you put in the work. My experience was similar to yours. But I need to add one note. In two occasions that I am familiar with, the poor performing employees who were put on performance improvement plans actually resigned before the removal process could be completed. So they are NOT listed as removals for poor performance, just as resignations. I have always suspected that if federal employees who resigned after a performance improvement plan was initiated were included in the stats for employees removed for poor performance, the numbers would be much higher. | |||
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That's a great point, so I stand corrected, 50% at least. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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I can only speak for myself and what happened at my agency. I was involved in hiring many times. I was never told you must hire X number of minority employees or females. Never happened. I wasn't told that verbally or in writing. The only direction I ever received in writing or verbally was to insure that veterans were included in the mix of hires. That's it. I would surely say that if i was with a group of managers involved in hiring say 6 new employees, and we hired 6 White males, that would be a problem. But I was never put into a position where I had to select a minority employee over a White employee that I thought would be a better fit for the job. Any time vacancies were announced we always had a very large number of applicants, far more than the number of vacancies. So we could pick the best. Every employee I hired came with excellent recommendations. Most had prior experience. But we did sometimes hire recent college graduates. But everyone of those were always Dean's List standouts. Am I suggesting that DEI hiring doesn't occur in the Federal Government. Nope. But I do suspect that there are wide differences from agency to agency in the extent of DEI hiring. SSA is in a sense kind of close to private industry in this regard. SSA has a product it has to deliver directly to the public - SSA benefits. If we don't deliver, the public is directly affected. And we hear from them if we don't deliver. SSA has always been short staffed. But now more than ever. We absolutely cannot afford to carry any dead wood. | |||
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We're not settling scores; we're weeding out inefficiency, politicization, and non-primary mission focus. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Where we were recently in the process was very early in the initial stage, meaning the DEI focused people were seeded near the top to continue the process. It's similar to the process from where schools were to where they got to be in terms of reading books about Joey has two Dads and now gender transitioning children without parents' consent or knowledge. Rome wasn't built in a day. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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