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Thank you Sen. Hawley. That was scorching.
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Senator Josh Hawley did a great job questioning Dr. Fauci, knowing he would plead the 5th.

Now, what will become of it?

There are two possible avenues to go after Dr. Anthony Fauci:

1. The DOJ could pursue a criminal case against him. Dr. Fauci would assert the pardon as an affirmative defense. The DOJ would then challenge the validity of the pardon.

2. The DOJ could pursue a civil case against him. The DOJ could seek fines and monetary damages to claw back the money Dr. Fauci made, illegally, as a government employee. They could also seek to take back his pension. A civil case is not limited by a pardon.



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I don't hold much hope that he will ever spend any time in prison but, Can he be held liable in Civil court for the damage that he did to the American peoples health both mental and physical?
 
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"You wanted to be the sun god of science...you called yourself the most famous scientist in the world, you've done more to harm science than anyone in my lifetime. I hope you'll go home and write that in your diary."
 
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There are two possible avenues to go after Dr. Anthony Fauci:

Am I wrong that there are actually 50 possible avenues to go after him? His "pardon", which should be proven invalid, is federal only. The individual states can and should go after him.


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I've seen no evidence of a changed understanding within people I know who were in that crowd.


How many line up for every booster?

My sister and her husband (both in their mid-60s) have gotten every shot and booster.

Since covid she has gotten cancer and he’s had a stroke. Just coincidence I’m sure.


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My brother-in-law got every shot and booster. He got cancer, also.



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There are two possible avenues to go after Dr. Anthony Fauci:

Am I wrong that there are actually 50 possible avenues to go after him? His "pardon", which should be proven invalid, is federal only. The individual states can and should go after him.

You are correct.
But... so far, no State has been willing to do so.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I really wish just one of them would have said, "I hope you burn in hell". Now that would have been beautiful.


Not a Congress critter, but the social commentator Silk has said so, and says she'll help stoke the fire hotter with a gallon of gas, and wants to scatter his ashes in her chicken coop. Caught about half of a short she released, and had to bomb out today.
 
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Rough Justice and Anthony Fauci

I really think that what we are seeing right now regarding Anthony Fauci represents a sort of tipping point in American history.

For the past 20 years or so our country has become so badly polarized that crimes are ignored if they are done for the “correct” way of thinking. For example, the "Trump/Russia Collusion” hoax was one of the greatest crimes in US history, yet half of America sees it as justified "because Trump.”

That same polarization was evident during COVID, where wearing or not wearing a mask became a political statement and Anthony Fauci was lionized by the political left and the national media as a hero of science and wisdom.

Further, COVID and Fauci represented the culmination of “trust the science” as a political football. For most of our lives we have been subjected to dire warnings of a “population bomb,” or “a new Ice Age,” or “global warming,” or “rampant heterosexual AIDS transmission,” or “climate change,” all as hysterical bugaboos designed to use science as camouflage for seizures of power away from the people into the hands of diabolical government bureaucrats.

Fauci was peak bugaboo.

(Just as an aside, the people I know who hate Fauci the MOST are medical professionals—people whose professional reputations were tarnished by proxy through Fauci’s lies and manipulation of public health policy.)

And Fauci was and is a TANGIBLE peak bugaboo that directly impacted all of our lives in so many profound and horrific ways. Kids locked down and terrified? Grandaddy dying alone and friendless in a plastic bubble? Not being able to attend your mother’s funeral? Being fired from your job because you would not inject some unknown substance into your veins? Losing your business? Not getting a timely cancer diagnosis? Loneliness, depression and fear? Bank account drained?

WE ALL EXPERIENCED SOME VARIATION OF THE ABOVE.

What makes this moment so rare in American history, however, is that all this pain has crystallized into the smirking specter of one very vain, very malicious, very megalomaniacal, very narcissistic, very tangible sort of “Doctor Evil” in the form of one Anthony Fauci.

He has become a LIVING SYMBOL of all that is wrong with the unelected federal bureaucracy and the blind, unquestioning allegiance to faulty “science” that have plagued our lives these many decades.

In other societies or in another age, Fauci would be reaching a public demise like that of Mussolini or Ceaușescu. We are too “civilized" for that of course, yet the public anger remains on par with the anger that ended the reign of those megalomaniacal tyrants.

That anger is extreme. I’m not sure I’ve ever before seen public anger directed at one American in such a palpable way.

Which brings me back to my original idea that what we saw in the Senate today was a tipping point.

I don’t expect to see the Left and the media say “We were wrong.” However, I do expect them to stop defending Fauci. I do expect them to stand aside and let the public anger consume him. Why? Because like Ceaușescu’s guards stepping away at the last minute, they do not want to share in his fate.

And that fate will now rest in the courts. Per SCOTUS precedent, Fauci arguably had no legal right to invoke the Fifth Amendment today. The Senate MUST therefore recommend contempt charges, the DOJ must indict him and bring him to trial, and he must be imprisoned as some small level of public satisfaction for the crimes against humanity this evil man committed.

I know, I know. I can hear it now. “He’ll never be convicted. No DC jury will convict him or even indict him.”

I disagree.

It’s why I say we have hit a tipping point. Jurors sometimes act out of fear for their own well being based on how they act as jurors. Even the most extreme, science-denying, Fauci-worshiping Leftist in the DC juror pool will know the public ANGER that lurks out there, and they will vote in favor of a slam-dunk contempt case if for no other reason than they do not want to risk the public outcry and personal ruin that will take place if their name becomes public (and it will) after an acquittal.
I know this sounds like the rough justice of the Old West.

Well….

Maybe a little rough justice is in order here so we can return to a place where genuine science and actual justice matter again.
Widespread public anger sometimes has a place. Today is that sometime, and Anthony Fauci’s impending prison cell is the place.

Jonathan Turley Agrees, refer him for contempt and let the courts decide...


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Can a foreign government indict him? Pardon wouldn’t apply. Would love to see the some nation send a team, kidnap him, and haul him into court as they did Eichmann.



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