Car cuts off motorcycle, car gets kicked by biker, then spins out retaliating..
Another car pulling into the carpool lane and not looking, this time though the motorcyclist has time to avoid the car, being upset he kicks car so hard it spins out (not really he kicks the car to warn it) and the car driver tries to run him over and ends up wrecking their car..
That's not what happens in the video. The driver of the car swerves and this is what causes the accident.
The Laws of Physics are intact.
Also, the video looks doctored. Since when do cars explode when banging into a wall like that?
June 22, 2017, 02:09 PM
DMF
Both parties are wrong. The MC rider better hope he can't be ID'd because he's the bigger a-hole in that incident, and could face both criminal and civil liability.
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June 22, 2017, 02:14 PM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: That's not what happens in the video. The driver of the car swerves and this is what causes the accident.
The Laws of Physics are intact.
Also, the video looks doctored. Since when do cars explode when banging into a wall like that?
True that is what happened, however in keeping with the trend of interweb reporting, wrote it the most absurd and nonfactual way.... aka biker kicked car into spin...
June 22, 2017, 02:19 PM
parabellum
So, you're asking for this thread to be locked? Misleading subject lines are unwelcome in this forum. Really, they are most unwelcome.
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June 22, 2017, 02:22 PM
mutedblade
quote:
Originally posted by DMF: Both parties are wrong. The MC rider better hope he can't be ID'd because he's the bigger a-hole in that incident, and could face both criminal and civil liability.
Not sure which video you watched, but from what I can gather, the guy on the bike is letting the offending car know that there is someone else already in the lane. The driver of the car either over-reacted when they were startled by someone else already being in the lane or they purposely tried to hit the guy on the bike as retaliation for kicking their car. I've seen instances like this play out a few times in Phoenix. A few guys I knew carried a length of chain they would use to smack a car with when they were too close. It's easy to lay blame on the guy on the bike because he was clearly out of the way because he showed great situational awareness, but honestly, I think anyone who comes that close to dying has a right to be upset, especially because the road was clear in front of the car that caused all of this, and there was no need to even get in that lane!
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June 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
stoic-one
That video doesn't include the entire event. From the article:
quote:
Tim Morrison and Chris Traber, who shot the video, were on their way to work when they say the driver of the silver sedan cut in front of the motorcyclist. The incident continued to escalate between the two motorists so Traber decided to start recording on his cellphone.
That wasn't an explosion. Just sparks from the metal scraping on either the concrete or other metal parts of the car.
June 22, 2017, 02:29 PM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: So, you're asking for this thread to be locked? Misleading subject lines are unwelcome in this forum. Really, they are most unwelcome.
No, just trying to be silly not subversive in the title, I'll change it...
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June 22, 2017, 02:48 PM
Russ59
My guess is that both drivers had been jawing at each other for a while. The MC rider kicking the door didn't help and I think the car swerves at the MC in retaliation for kicking his door - then physics take over as they are wont to do. I'd imagine the MC rider is on the hook for hit and run.
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June 22, 2017, 02:51 PM
erj_pilot
^^^^^^^^^^^^ You mean "kick and run"????
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June 22, 2017, 02:53 PM
drabfour
quote:
Originally posted by mutedblade:
quote:
Originally posted by DMF: Both parties are wrong. The MC rider better hope he can't be ID'd because he's the bigger a-hole in that incident, and could face both criminal and civil liability.
Not sure which video you watched, but from what I can gather, the guy on the bike is letting the offending car know that there is someone else already in the lane. The driver of the car either over-reacted when they were startled by someone else already being in the lane or they purposely tried to hit the guy on the bike as retaliation for kicking their car. I've seen instances like this play out a few times in Phoenix. A few guys I knew carried a length of chain they would use to smack a car with when they were too close. It's easy to lay blame on the guy on the bike because he was clearly out of the way because he showed great situational awareness, but honestly, I think anyone who comes that close to dying has a right to be upset, especially because the road was clear in front of the car that caused all of this, and there was no need to even get in that lane!
Leaving scene of accident failure to render aid.
June 22, 2017, 02:55 PM
newtoSig765
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June 22, 2017, 02:58 PM
Oz_Shadow
Unless there was more prior to that, it looked like the car driver was startled by the kick, swerved and totally lost control
June 22, 2017, 02:58 PM
downtownv
Most HOV lanes only allow entrance at certain spots, otherwise it's a solid line no pass zone...
I would say the Bike was fully allowed to kick the car.. Would it have been better to let the car continue until he hit the bike?
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