I got a very sobering letter from the Illinois State Rifle Association today and it was about the 2018 election. The republicans were wiped out in the state of Illinois and it is going to mean some draconian gun control before long I am sure including "assault weapon" ban, high capacity magazine, ban, taxes on guns and ammo, a state board packed with democrats to oversee licensing of FFLs and gun stores with "emergency" powers, registration, and even talk of all ceterfire ammo has to have unique serial number. I don't know what is up with Illinois gun owners are very few are members of the Illinois State Rifle Association, around 25,000 I believe, and there are close to 250,000 CCW holders in Illinois. Maybe they just don't care. Here is the letter.

I left Illinois 12 years ago. Thank God.

Still have family in IL though, and gun owners at that. But no amount of talking with them has convinced them to head on to greener pastures. Yet.

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I left Illinois 12 years ago. Thank God.

Still have family in IL though, and gun owners at that. But no amount of talking with them has convinced them to head on to greener pastures. Yet.

I hear you. I finally convinced wife we need to get out of Illinois though it mat not be for 5-6 years yet but at least that is a start. We are looking at Tennessee near the Maryville area.

The first sentence is the reason for the letter.

There are so many other reasons to not live there without even addressing the firearms issues.

Most live there because they can’t get motivated enough to move and think of all sorts of reasons not to move.

I have about given up on the ability of gun owners and others on the Right to recognize what’s in their best interests and to make the minimal efforts to look after those interests. After the Obamanation was elected the second time, a member here did some analysis of voter turnout and concluded it was the Republicans who didn’t vote who made that man’s election possible in Colorado. Who didn’t vote for Republicans this time because they were convinced that a candidate’s brand of Republicanism wasn’t their brand? And what was the result? Now we hear about people refusing to support the NRA because “the organization” (in fact, a few or possibly less people) didn’t do right about them. Nose, say goodbye to face.

At some point it’s no longer possible to even care. Years ago when Colorado was looking at some sort of “assault weapon” ban, an acquaintance said, “What do I care? I’m law enforcement, and it won’t affect me.” At that moment he became an acquaintance rather than a friend, but now I’m about ready to tell myself how many magazines, ARs, and ammo I have and just ride the river for how many more years I have left (hopefully not many) and be entertained by the scenery as I go by.

Well said sigfeund. Complacent firearm owners are the ones we have to worry about when it comes to losing more and more of our Second Amendment Rights. I know too many firearm owners who say they are republicans but won't vote for a particular republican candidate because he has a funny looking mustache or such even though the candidate has an NRA A+ rating. Then they act like staying home on election day really showed them.

The very people who stay home and will not fight for their principals in elections, will the same the same people who will not fight if the constitution was dissolved by the left.

This country was formed by a minority that was willing to lay it all on the line for freedom.

NJ is equal, if not worse republicans wiped out, The unions rule the shithole. Follow closely by the illegal aliens getting $2 mil for legal aid paid by the taxpayers!

The perfect, the enemy of the good.

I am thankful I live just across the river in Iowa! I belong to a great range in IL, I sure hope I'll still be able to shoot my ARs there.

http://www.milanrifle.club/

Illinois is like CA, NY and NJ, it's a lost state.

Republicans vote in Illinois, but Chicago outnumbers us. It is simple math and there are more of them.

I am afraid I am too old to move. My wife, my daughter and I all have specialized doctors here. I have an elderly aunt who I am responsible for. I have wealthy friends in other states who can not find a Dr who takes Medicare patients. I do have a friend who has a concierge Dr. That is pretty expensive.

Sure some republicans voted no where near the turnout that the democrats had and thus the wipeout, but that was pretty much the case across the country.

We sometimes have to drive thru Ill. My wife hates the state so bad, she insists we gas and rest stop in Indiana at the border, and our next stop is around Jaynesville, WI.

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The republicans were wiped out in the state of Illinois and it is going to mean some draconian gun control before long I am sure...

Yep.

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Illinois is like CA, NY and NJ, it's a lost state.

Yep. Actually, the budget imbalance and the debt sustainability are worse than the rest of them. Illinois and NJ are in a race for first state to default. It'll be interesting.
What will the USA say to states that default?
It will be a defining moment. We can let IL, CA, NY and NJ pull down the entire country... or we can tell them they are on their own.

Illinois isn't the only state in jeopardy. Here in Florida there is already an incredibly draconian AWB that has been proposed as a ballot initiative in 2020. The demographics in the state have changed enough that it may get the 60% threshold needed to pass. In addition, we may also see a wave of hard core Democrats sweep our state next time around.

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Originally posted by HKAngusKL:
Illinois isn't the only state in jeopardy. Here in Florida there is already an incredibly draconian AWB that has been proposed as a ballot initiative in 2020. The demographics in the state have changed enough that it may get the 60% threshold needed to pass. In addition, we may also see a wave of hard core Democrats sweep our state next time around.

This kind of crap pisses me off to no end. That kind of stuff has absolutely no business whatsoever being on a ballot. Freakin' commies. This is how they get their way, by putting up feel good notions to the ignorant masses.

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Originally posted by HKAngusKL:
Illinois isn't the only state in jeopardy. Here in Florida there is already an incredibly draconian AWB that has been proposed as a ballot initiative in 2020. The demographics in the state have changed enough that it may get the 60% threshold needed to pass. In addition, we may also see a wave of hard core Democrats sweep our state next time around.

Unfortunately I'm afraid NV is going to hell as well with our new CA libturd Gov and his super majority state assembly. Afraid it's going to trend bad enough that I'll be looking for a new state in my impending retirement.

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Originally posted by HKAngusKL:
Illinois isn't the only state in jeopardy. Here in Florida there is already an incredibly draconian AWB that has been proposed as a ballot initiative in 2020. The demographics in the state have changed enough that it may get the 60% threshold needed to pass. In addition, we may also see a wave of hard core Democrats sweep our state next time around.

This kind of crap pisses me off to no end. That kind of stuff has absolutely no business whatsoever being on a ballot. Freakin' commies. This is how they get their way, by putting up feel good notions to the ignorant masses.

Folks in FL are so ignorant that they overwhelmingly passed an initiative the last go round to make felon re-enfranchisement an automatic process. We had an existing framework in place for prior felons to regain voting rights, but they had to apply and be fully compliance with any parole or post release obligations. I suspect that the real reason for that initiative was to add about a million new democratic voters to the voter pool.

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I suspect that the real reason for that initiative was to add about a million new democratic voters to the voter pool.

Yes.
And... as the country just witnessed, through the close Senate and Governor races, Florida is a closely divided state. It's also crucial to any Republican's chances at the Presidency.
If Florida is lost... there will never be another Republican President.

Ann Coulter: GOP ‘at Point of Extinction’ Due to Mass Immigration

"I have very little hope for the country. It’s going to be bad, it’s going to be Brazil first, we’re about to lose Texas and Florida. Those elections were razor thin. And every day, more and more immigrants turn 18 and start voting, canceling out all your votes. It’s about five more years, Trump will be the last Republican president. "

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...to-mass-immigration/

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