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Originally posted by SigSAC:
They've dropped the Alford plea - going directly to guilty plea.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...dc51db540ffabe&ei=16

Very interesting. Thank you. He must’ve guessed that the Alford plea wouldn’t fly.

Looks like having the name Biden is no longer the get out of jail free card it once was

Hope he gets a long time behind bars.

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Originally posted by shovelhead:
A pardon/commutation won’t come down until after the election whoever wins.

What if Slow Joe wants to get his final revenge for the "coup"? Wouldn't pardoning Hunter a day or two BEFORE the election be almost like saying, "I am voting for Trump"?

My theory, for what it’s worth…


Hunter falling on his sword was part of the “deal” made to get Joe to step down. Plead it out, he takes one for the “team” and in return it keeps the DOJ from being “pressured” to investigate ties from Hunter’s scams that lead back to Joe.

Assurances were likely made to avoid any serious consequences for both the gun and tax charges, and I imagine regardless of any “promises” Joe will pardon his boy, or he will get off so light that a pardon isn’t necessary.

Once again, we the people will not get justice and the truth will never be warmed by the light of day.

The “Alford plea”. I had to look it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alford_plea

Just one more example of where truth and justice are coincidental

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Originally posted by Tn226:
Why is there such a long wait for sentencing? Couldn’t it done say tomorrow?

In federal criminal cases, after someone is convicted or pleads guilty, there's a significant presentencing investigation and evaluation that is performed by federal probation officers. (This happens even when there's a plea deal, since the Judge isn't required to abide by the terms of the plea deal for sentencing.)

The results of this in-depth presentence investigation form a majority of the foundation for the Judge's final sentencing determination.

The investigation has to be performed (which can take a while itself, especially for someone with significant financial assets or a wide-ranging criminal history). Then the results are codified into a lengthy presentence report, and the report is sent to the parties for review. Then the parties are allowed to object to certain factors, or ask for clarification, and based on that the report is amended, sometimes several times. Then the report is finalized, and only then can the Judge sentence them.

All that takes time. Usually several months, at least.

Can’t they be in jail while all of that is going on?


He’s not going to get 30 days for tax evasion. Maybe 30 months.

Let’s get the party started (cue the music)

I’m thinking his prison theme song might be Da Butt by EU

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Can’t they be in jail while all of that is going on?

Yes, and some are. But not all.

Similar to how some folks are in jail while awaiting trial, but not all.

It depends on stuff like the type of offense, flight risk, public safety risk, prior history of compliance with terms of release, etc.

If you're interested in reading the actual statutes, federal pretrial and presentencing release vs. detention are governed by 18 USC § 1342 and 18 USC § 1343.

Is he going to have to pay those back taxes plus penalties and interest in addition to any other punishment? Seems to me, if his rich patron buddy in CA is paying that all for him, it's well beyond the tax-free gift limit, opening up new tax issues for him.

According to the source SigSAC posted:

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Biden paid back his taxes in the course of Weiss’s five-year investigation, but he was prevented from raising that point as a defense at trial. Scarsi said judges “routinely exclude evidence that a defendant untimely filed tax returns or untimely paid outstanding tax debts.”

JMO it's possible he's been instructed to fall on his sword to protect daddy's criminal involvement in using his position to get Jr. paid.

It's why he paid the back taxes, took the gun charges and now pleading to keep everything from coming out in the trial with the coming election, which would hurt the D in the house and senate runs.

Sugar Daddy seems to have paid his Federal taxes. But what about all the State taxes… Crickets… We will see if the State of CA pursues their share.

Again, sugar daddy's payments are obviously well in excess of tax-free gift limits. Surely, that was added to the tally as well, no?

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Originally posted by Lineman101:
We will see if the State of CA pursues their share.

Possibly Newsom (D) gets told to drop it.

Pretty sure the giver of a gift owes taxes, not the receiver of the gift.

Is my read correct that the judge could accept the guilty plea and set sentencing for Jan 21st, 2025, which would eliminate Droolin' Joe's pardon?

I am not an attorney, but I think that a trial opens up discovery that Biden and the DNC do not want. Hunter was probably told to plead guilty and waive the trial, or plan his funeral.

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Originally posted by jed7s9b:
Pretty sure the giver of a gift owes taxes, not the receiver of the gift.

Nope, other way around. Government treats the "Gift" as income, which they then want their share of.

Example:
https://www.independent.co.uk/...y-show-a8208051.html