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I saw a picture once - it may have been here - of a rifle fired with a bore sighter still in the barrel. The barrel peeled open like one would a banana.

^Yes, that's a fairly famous picture...

At least he gets that leupold fixed.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
*ouch*

I'd mistakenly loaded my .40 S&W pistol with 9mm.

This also happened at a CCW class I had a few years ago. Two guys had Springfield XDs (.40/9mm) and the 40 guy accidentally grabbed the 9mm guy's mag during the reloading break.

The gun was basically a single-shot and bulged the brass like a margarita glass.

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Originally posted by Nismo:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
*ouch*

I'd mistakenly loaded my .40 S&W pistol with 9mm.

This also happened at a CCW class I had a few years ago. Two guys had Springfield XDs (.40/9mm) and the 40 guy accidentally grabbed the 9mm guy's mag during the reloading break.

The gun was basically a single-shot and bulged the brass like a margarita glass.

I did this once about 20yrs ago when I had a P220 and another SIG in .40, accidently shot a .40 out of a .45 if I recall correctly. Case bulged and split slightly and didn't eject. I could tell something didn't shoot right, but its been too long to remember the details. Never again have I made that mistake.

On someone's comment about the Arisaka. I recently bought one at an estate auction. Found me some 7.7 Jap, put it in a Lead Sled figured out a way to pull that trigger from waaaaay far back and away. Good to go....ok.

I have a lot of various chamberings now, in part thanks to my milsurp collecting son. This is with rifles and handguns.

I make a special effort to make sure the correct ammo goes in the proper gun. I can see how it could happen with certain mixups.

Then you may have certain ammo for different guns of the same chambering, the 45-70 trapdoor verses the modern lever-action.

Anyone else bothered by the fact that the range does/did not have a first aid kit readily available??
I have been to quite a few ranges in many different states both public and private. I can think of 1 range that did not have a first aid kit was a public range in the middle of nowhere.

A couple of them had really nice kits at the emergency phone and the GPS Coordinates to the closest safe helicopter LZ.

Looks like a Savage 110 to me. Not that it matters.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
How about a short cased cartridge in a long case receiver. Say 308 Win. in a 7mm Rem Mag?

The bloods splatters on the concrete shooting station really drive the diligence point home for me.

And one with a bigger diameter bullet. It would be interesting to know what the mismatch was. Carter's Country range in Spring, Texas has a display of a rifle that got blown up that way, but I forget which cartridge was jammed into the wrong chamber. It might have been a .308 round chambered in a 25-06 rifle, which is possible. Clearly a .308 bullet will not travel down a .25 caliber bore. That gun wasn't as badly blown up as this one, but it still makes the point.

I saw 9mm fired in a .40 several times by mistake in my IDPA range officer days. The extractor often holds them firmly enough to fire. The case sometimes splits, but pressures aren't high enough to do much damage, as the bullet bangs its way down the barrel. No harm, but don't do it.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
And one with a bigger diameter bullet.

That’s what I was trying to say by picking 308 and 7mm. Your example is better because the case heads are the same size so the primer would be properly aligned with the firing pin. Assuming the case head was seated against the bolt face with enough pressure to allow the firing pin to strike and ignite the primer, that’s when the excitement starts.

Looking at the spent case and unreadable box of Barnes Vortex, I’m guessing 25-06.

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Anyone else bothered by the fact that the range does/did not have a first aid kit readily available??

That's why I have a IFAK kit on my range bag. As a firearms instructor and a Hunter-Ed instructor, these kits might save a life (or two).
I also have one in my daily work bag, in case someone gets shot and tourniquets need to be applied.

I cant speak about bolt guns, but with pistols you'll see 9mm in a .40S&W or .300BO in a .223/5.56 AR.

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Originally posted by odin:

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Anyone else bothered by the fact that the range does/did not have a first aid kit readily available??

That's why I have a IFAK kit on my range bag. As a firearms instructor and a Hunter-Ed instructor, these kits might save a life (or two).
I also have one in my daily work bag, in case someone gets shot and tourniquets need to be applied.

Same here. I'd rather not rely on somebody elses' kit...I know what's in mine and where stuff is.

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Once I loaded a 308 in a 270 Ruger 77. The 308 was hand loaded with a round nose 180gr seated out to match my 308 chamber. The 270 fired & the bolt was frozen shut. After I got the bolt open I had a gunsmith check the chamber & all was OK. I never again had more than one caliber ammo on my bench.

Holy crap...that's pretty much exactly the sort of thing that I'd expect would cause what we're seeing here . That must have been one tough rifle...did the bullet clear the barrel or did you have to pound it out?

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posted August 30, 2022 12:55 PM
A friend of mine who shoots there sent me this, happened this past Sunday. If its been posted ill delete it. Be careful gentlemen.

I have unashamedly stolen this post for three other US-based fora on which I have written for years. I will give full credit.

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Originally posted by bozman:
Looks like he was bleeding heavily. Look at the size of the drops.

That had to be nasty. Hope the range or someone close by had a med kit.

The statement from the range in the OP reports that the explosion amputated his trigger finger, which does tend to cause heavy bleeding...

It also stated that another member that was present had a first aid kit.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
I'd mistakenly loaded my .40 S&W pistol with 9mm.

This happens every couple years at the police academy where I teach, despite it being hammered into the cadets' heads to check their ammo when loading their magazines, and the calibers being segregated on different tables in the loading area. (We necessarily have multiple calibers available, since the classes consist of an amalgamation of cadets from various different agencies.)

Inevitably, every several classes, a cadet with a .40 handgun will end up grabbing a box of 9mm. 9mm loads and fires just fine in a .40 Glock, but typically doesn't fully eject or fully cycle the slide. So it becomes apparent within the first string of fire, when you end up with a cadet who's having to tap-rack after every shot.

Interestingly, it's usually not during the first several boxes, like you might think. So it's not like a cadet starts off just not knowing what caliber their handgun is... These cadets have been knowingly loading .40 ammo into their .40 handgun several times in a row, before they end up getting complacent/inattentive and loading a box of 9mm into their .40 handgun.

Luckily, .40 and .45 won't load or fire in a 9mm, so we don't have to worry about catastrophic mistakes like that. And everything with rifles and shotguns involves single calibers, so no mixup worries there.

Any more information on the gun and ammunition? I'm trying to identify the receiver.

I have eliminated Savage as there is no barrel nut, it's a threaded barrel with shoulder, and Winchester 70 because the recoil lug is integral to the receiver.

I don't think it's a Ruger 77 as there is no evidence of a Mauser style extractor, the recoil lug is integral to the receiver, and the bolt handle appears to be straight, where Ruger's is a twisty thing.

It's not a Tikka, they are magazine fed, and the bolt lugs are wrong, and I don't think it's either a Browning X-bolt or A-bolt as there's no evidence of a bolt shroud. Of course the shroud could have left for parts unknown...

It looks a lot like a Remington 700, except for the black band on the bolt about half an inch behind the front locking lugs, which could be for a Mauser style extractor which has left the building, but nothing else about he action says "Mauser".

There does not seem to have been a metal magazine inside the stock, rather the stock sides appear to be the magazine with a bottom plate, spring and follower.

The wood appears too nice to be from one of the new generation of "affordable" rifles, such as a Ruger American or Winchester XPR, etc.

The case looks like it could be a belted magnum, and I'm guessing that the case that is visible is NOT the KaBOOM case, as it appears to have no damage.

Any thoughts?

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^^ The gun club hasn’t sent any other info out to members.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:

Any thoughts?

I’m stumped. Someone took the time to pillar bed the action and like you said the wood looks decent, so it doesn’t seem like a value priced firearm. The thing seems like the biggest clue is that the trigger group is completely covered. The cover seems to be one piece with the trigger guard floor plate assembly. Other than that, I think I can see two holes in the front part of the receiver where it was drilled and tapped for the scope mount. That eliminates the Rugers with integral dovetails.

Just saw an unconfirmed report that it was a .308 Winchester round in a 25-06 (I'm assuming the poster meant 25-06, not 26-06)...

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Found out tonight what happened. Apparently it was a new rifle to him and he for some reason did not know the caliber. .308 win fit the bolt and chambered. Rifle turned out to be a 26-06 caliber.
Guessing at an unknown chambering is NOT a good idea. ESPECIALLY when the bore diameters don't match.

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Thanks for the update.

Know what ammunition your gun takes and ensure that you’re loading only the correct kind in your gun are just two of the many firearms safety rules that we shooters should know and observe. But if we only ever hear of “the four,” unfortunate accidents like this occur.