I suppose this could really happen. Let’s analyses.
Especially going up a hill loaded which puts you at a low rate of speed.
The fact he was pulling double trailers also adds to the fact you will not know what the rear trailer is doing unless you look in the mirror. It could in reality flip over and you would never know it.
If you notice the truck appears to be in a mild turn to the right which would also put the left rear corner of the rear trailer out of view in the driver’s mirror.
I bet the car driver needed a change of clothes. Bottoms probably soiled and tops full of sweat.
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April 25, 2017, 12:06 PM
kx90
I dunno, from the video you can see the semi's drive side mirror, it looks like from that angle he should've been able to see the car he was dragging.
What I want to know is how the car got hitched up to the trailer.
April 25, 2017, 12:09 PM
Balzé Halzé
Ok, I laughed.
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April 25, 2017, 12:15 PM
ScorpionBoy
the car driver must have done something pretty stupid to get himself in that position. The truck driver was driving by pyro and focused on EGTs? i don't know what the hell he was doing.
i laughed too.
April 25, 2017, 12:19 PM
Hound Dog
His horn didn't work?
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April 25, 2017, 12:20 PM
Flashlightboy
The guy that shot the vid says the car was dragged for four miles but the CHP disagreed and said it was 3/4 of a mile.
No citations were issued to the driver of the truck and after an on scene investigation, he was allowed to drive away.
April 25, 2017, 12:25 PM
cmr076
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Originally posted by ScorpionBoy: the car driver must have done something pretty stupid to get himself in that position. The truck driver was driving by pyro and focused on EGTs? i don't know what the hell he was doing.
i laughed too.
probably texting and driving, drifted over into the drivers lane and the front end of the maxima caught the back of the truckers back tire, pulling the car off the ground. that's all I can figure.
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April 25, 2017, 12:34 PM
Flashlightboy
Instead of doing the simple Google thing that would save us all from wild speculation, unsupported by any version of what happened, we list things that didn't happen, aren't even close to what happened and it lowers the thread IQ as a result.
The driver of the truck was carrying 50k lbs. of carrots up the hill. He pulled into the next lane over to pass a slower truck in front of him. The lane he moved into was where the driver of the Maxima was already at. The truck driver hit him, caught him and you see the video result.
No texting, no drifting. The facts are pretty boring.
I believe it. A number of years ago a guy in a powered wheel chair was crossing the street in front of a tractor trailer at a light on a rural highway. The driver didn't see him and when the light turned green took off lodging the chair in the grill. People started calling 911 reporting it but they were having trouble finding the truck until it drove by an MSP Trooper sitting at a light looking. She told my buddy that she was looking for it, saw it with her own eyes, and still sat there stunned for a moment. It took her a few miles to catch up and get him stopped.
No injuries to the guy in the wheel chair, in fact the company who made it gave him a new one, and the one that took the ride is on display in their corporate HQ
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April 25, 2017, 12:41 PM
cmr076
quote:
Originally posted by Flashlightboy: Instead of doing the simple Google thing that would save us all from wild speculation, unsupported by any version of what happened, we list things that didn't happen, aren't even close to what happened and it lowers the thread IQ as a result.
The driver of the truck was carrying 50k lbs. of carrots up the hill. He pulled into the next lane over to pass a slower truck in front of him. The lane he moved into was where the driver of the Maxima was already at. The truck driver hit him, caught him and you see the video result.
No texting, no drifting. The facts are pretty boring.
Originally posted by Flashlightboy: Instead of doing the simple Google thing that would save us all from wild speculation, unsupported by any version of what happened, we list things that didn't happen, aren't even close to what happened and it lowers the thread IQ as a result.
The driver of the truck was carrying 50k lbs. of carrots up the hill. He pulled into the next lane over to pass a slower truck in front of him. The lane he moved into was where the driver of the Maxima was already at. The truck driver hit him, caught him and you see the video result.
No texting, no drifting. The facts are pretty boring.
Your prior thread said texting and driving - no texting by either party was suspected in the article and if the video is your sole source of facts, I have no idea where texting and driving came from.
Your prior thread said drifting - nothing suggests that. The move into the lane by the truck driver was deliberate and intentional.
Your prior thread said front end of the maxima caught the back of the trucker's back tire - nothing in the article said the Maxima changed lanes into the truck.
It wasn't speculation as it was a wild ass guess not based on one single fact.
April 25, 2017, 12:57 PM
MooneyP226
And that, my friends, is why I warn people not to hang out in the "no zone" or change lanes from the far left to the middle while next to a truck.
Also, tailgrabbing the truck, and changing lanes quickly to scoot around could lend a hand in this happening.
Just because the car was "already there" doesn't mean he WAS there when the truck had already committed to the lane change.
Sure, it could have been, but I've seen many close calls caused be cars changing spots into the truck's blind spot.
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April 25, 2017, 03:37 PM
cmr076
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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
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Originally posted by cmr076:
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Originally posted by Flashlightboy: Instead of doing the simple Google thing that would save us all from wild speculation, unsupported by any version of what happened, we list things that didn't happen, aren't even close to what happened and it lowers the thread IQ as a result.
The driver of the truck was carrying 50k lbs. of carrots up the hill. He pulled into the next lane over to pass a slower truck in front of him. The lane he moved into was where the driver of the Maxima was already at. The truck driver hit him, caught him and you see the video result.
No texting, no drifting. The facts are pretty boring.
Your prior thread said texting and driving - no texting by either party was suspected in the article and if the video is your sole source of facts, I have no idea where texting and driving came from.
Your prior thread said drifting - nothing suggests that. The move into the lane by the truck driver was deliberate and intentional.
Your prior thread said front end of the maxima caught the back of the trucker's back tire - nothing in the article said the Maxima changed lanes into the truck.
It wasn't speculation as it was a wild ass guess not based on one single fact.
and none of that is wild speculations, reasonable speculation maybe. And the front of the maxima DID catch the back tire, how else would it get jammed up above it and kept there.
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April 25, 2017, 03:41 PM
YellowJacket
californians, dude.
I'm gonna vote for the funniest frog with the loudest croak on the highest log.
April 25, 2017, 03:51 PM
fischtown7
Been up that stupid hill Cajon Pass hundreds of times, right lane you have trucks crawling 15-25 mph and you have trucks that are a little faster 20-35 passing them. So the truck probably pulled in front of the car passing slower traffic and the car doing 55mph or faster hit the truck. Since the trucker did not notice the car I would guess he probably does not have a good habit of watching his mirrors. Whose at fault hard to say. Car could have smacked rear of trailer too. Even pulling doubles thats visible from cab.
April 25, 2017, 03:58 PM
LS1 GTO
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Originally posted by fischtown7: Been up that stupid hill Cajon Pass hundreds of times, right lane you have trucks crawling 15-25 mph and you have trucks that are a little faster 20-35 passing them. So the truck probably pulled in front of the car passing slower traffic and the car doing 55mph or faster hit the truck. Since the trucker did not notice the car I would guess he probably does not have a good habit of watching his mirrors. Whose at fault hard to say. Car could have smacked rear of trailer too. Even pulling doubles thats visible from cab.
Been up that stretch of road many times and the only part missing from the above is mention of those vehicles doing 80 mph in the No. 1 lane.
Oh and on the way down - well lets just refer to that as "The Cajon Pass Speedway."
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April 25, 2017, 04:03 PM
fischtown7
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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
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Originally posted by fischtown7: Been up that stupid hill Cajon Pass hundreds of times, right lane you have trucks crawling 15-25 mph and you have trucks that are a little faster 20-35 passing them. So the truck probably pulled in front of the car passing slower traffic and the car doing 55mph or faster hit the truck. Since the trucker did not notice the car I would guess he probably does not have a good habit of watching his mirrors. Whose at fault hard to say. Car could have smacked rear of trailer too. Even pulling doubles thats visible from cab.
Been up that stretch of road many times and the only part missing from the above is mention of those vehicles doing 80 mph in the No. 1 lane.
Oh and on the way down - well lets just refer to that as "The Cajon Pass Speedway."
You are right about Nr1 lane but CHP will bust your butt if you leave the the two right lanes in a commercial vehicle. You still get cars zig zagging thru all the lanes even though the two right ones are full of trucks.
April 25, 2017, 04:06 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7: Been up that stupid hill Cajon Pass hundreds of times, right lane you have trucks crawling 15-25 mph and you have trucks that are a little faster 20-35 passing them. So the truck probably pulled in front of the car passing slower traffic and the car doing 55mph or faster hit the truck. Since the trucker did not notice the car I would guess he probably does not have a good habit of watching his mirrors. Whose at fault hard to say. Car could have smacked rear of trailer too. Even pulling doubles thats visible from cab.
And the driver I'm sure wasn't paying attention at all.
Whenever I'm driving up Parley's Pass in Utah on I-80, I'm always tuned into what the trucks are doing. I anticipate what I think the trucker may want to do. If I see one truck closing in on another that is going slower than him, I assume he will not want to lose momentum, and I move over early. It's a courtesy thing, and it goes both ways. I watch other drivers all the time not care a wit what other drivers are doing and just la dee da in their own lane because "why should I be bothered to move over when I don't have to." They expect the trucker to slow down and stay in his current lane because they can't be bothered. On an incline like some of these passes have, losing that little bit of momentum is a killer.
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April 25, 2017, 04:21 PM
Russ59
Good times. Yes, Mike Lowrie trucking is out of Dixon.
The lesson here is never, never, never drive in a truck's blind spot. Pass with great haste!