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I'm thinking of purchasing SD insurance from USCCA. Times are changing, the likelihood of
being attacked in my vehicle is a major concern! Do you think it's necessary in a "Castle Doctrine" State
like Florida. Your thoughts:

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My wife and I have had CCW Safe since the case of an individual (we will not mention his name) in central Florida was arrested and charged with murder when he should not have been.
He went to trial and was found innocent. We figure it cost him upwards of a half a million dollars. Not to many people I know can afford that bill and not be financially wiped out.
For us it is peace of mind.




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Posts: 2658 | Location: Central Florida, south of the mouse | Registered: March 08, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
186,000 miles per second.
It's the law.




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Would a standard liability umbrella policy be of use in this type of situation?
 
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Standard liability insurance likely wouldn't cover you for an intentional act.
For what it's worth..........
https://lawofselfdefense.com/u...ver-platinum-member/

None of them are true insurance and you need to really read the fine print to see what and when they cover you. Many won't provide any help unless you are found innocent first but you need the money upfront to pay for a good defense.
From what I've seen, if I was going to purchase any, CCW Safe is where I'd look first.


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Originally posted by FishOn:
Would a standard liability umbrella policy be of use in this type of situation?


I have an umbrella through Allstate and having checked with my agent about this, the answer was no.

Jim


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Originally posted by 104RFAST:
Your thoughts:
1. If you're looking for numbers a poll is more effective than a post.
2. This thread happens every few months and will go like every ccw insurance thread before it.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...780017434#2780017434

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/5030083224/p/1

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...690078144#4690078144

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/4880003064/p/1



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Great job tatortodd





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You might find this link helpful.

https://vcdl.org/Legal-Plans



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I have CCW Safe's Ultimate Plan for piece of mind.


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Buddy has one of these, talked about it all the time and asked me to join him at the course at a LGS. Interesting enough class, I saw it for what it was, not a safety training education as billed but a what if and whatcha gonna do when da big bad world comes for you, sales pitch.

Went through the course, while they call it insurance it's not insurance at all, none of them are registered insurance companies with any states, it's a pre-paid legal services agreement.

From what I can glean from the literature and course they are under no supervision nor governance of any state department of insurance, none... You have zero consumer protection under the laws of insurance in your state...
 
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CCW SAFE is a good idea.
 
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Originally posted by FishOn:
Would a standard liability umbrella policy be of use in this type of situation?


I have an umbrella through Allstate and having checked with my agent about this, the answer was no.

Jim


Same for State Farm.


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Buddy has one of these, talked about it all the time and asked me to join him at the course at a LGS. Interesting enough class, I saw it for what it was, not a safety training education as billed but a what if and whatcha gonna do when da big bad world comes for you, sales pitch.

Went through the course, while they call it insurance it's not insurance at all, none of them are registered insurance companies with any states, it's a pre-paid legal services agreement.

From what I can glean from the literature and course they are under no supervision nor governance of any state department of insurance, none... You have zero consumer protection under the laws of insurance in your state...


You have zero protection without it. So far, they performed the services that you are paying them to perform (for others) which is better than not having any protection.


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Originally posted by FishOn:
Would a standard liability umbrella policy be of use in this type of situation?


I have an umbrella through Allstate and having checked with my agent about this, the answer was no.

Jim



Odd, when I had an umbrella through LM they said yes.




 
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This months American Handgunner magazine has an article by
Mas Ayoob that includes a paragraph that addresses
what insurance might or might not
cover.





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Anyone have any first or second hand knowledge of cases where someone was put through the legal wringer, had one of these plans and how the plan performed?
 
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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
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Originally posted by FishOn:
Would a standard liability umbrella policy be of use in this type of situation?


I have an umbrella through Allstate and having checked with my agent about this, the answer was no.

Jim



Odd, when I had an umbrella through LM they said yes.


I have insurance with Allstate for auto, home and motorcycle and the umbrella only raises the liability amounts to 1 million dollars for those policies. Since those policies do not cover defensive shooting incidents the umbrella won't kick in.

Jim


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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
quote:
Originally posted by FishOn:
Would a standard liability umbrella policy be of use in this type of situation?


I have an umbrella through Allstate and having checked with my agent about this, the answer was no.

Jim


This. Umbrella at State Farm and my agent says no. Had USCCA since 2018.



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A plaintiff's attorney wants your money the easiest way possible. If they structure the personal injury petition to include an alternative allegation that you "accidentally" shot their client, your homeowner's policy and umbrella will likely cover you for duty to defend. They might only pay out if they get a verdict or settlement to that "accidental" allegation though. You'll likely receive a Reservation of Rights letter explaining what they will and will not pay for and your personal assets might not be protected in some instances of resolution of the case.
 
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Anyone have any first or second hand knowledge of cases where someone was put through the legal wringer, had one of these plans and how the plan performed?


^^^^
This is really the only test that counts.


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