All current modern devices have the planned obsolescence model. Apple actually supports their products longer than android. Android is supposed to have at least 2 OS upgrades for their phones, but many time the product only gets one(1) OS upgrade. Where as iphones are supported much longer. The Iphone 7 came out in September 2016 with iOS 10.0.1 and I believe it is still supported by the current iOS 13.x. So in the long run if you don't like upgrading and purchasing an expensive mobile phone every year or every other year, the iphone is the best choice. God Bless

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Originally posted by stickman428:
It’s time for a change. You want to know why?

I’m sick of the God damned planned obsolescence. I’m sick of my phone activating the absolute stupid once it gets a few years old. There is NO FUCKING REASON for autocorrect to suddenly acquire a complete inability to function as it used to.

Those fuckers made my phone stupid intentionally. They got sued for it and weaseled their way out of what should have been a billion dollar law suit.

I’m sick of fucking with the cursor on the “intelligent touch screen” which often highlights and then deletes everything I just typed.

I’m sick of the smug mother fuckers who bend the knee at the alter of Apple and worship its mediocrity.

I’m sick of the terrible battery life.

I’m sick of fucking with a phone for 7 hours only to discover that the SIM card is incompatible. This is after painstakingly deleting things in hopes a new OS will allow the old phone to transfer its info to the new phone.

I am so god damned sick of Apple I don’t think this post is even necessary.

Which Samsung do you guys recommend? I’m giving this phone to my dad (he could use a better phone) and starting over.

Oh and fuck apple

Anyone have a Galaxy A51? I’m thinking it’s what I’ll go with.

I’m with the OP, tho maybe not quite same level of angst.

Alas, iPhone remains for ONE reason: FaceTime with family (who have iPhones)

If not for FT, I’d probably still be with my old beater ‘Windows’ phone...Nokia IIRC. That was an ‘easy-to-use’ device.

Boss

I wasted about 6-7 hours total yesterday fighting with an archaic iPhone 6 and an IPhone 8+.

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Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
All current modern devices have the planned obsolescence model. Apple actually supports their products longer than android.

This is undeniably true. Apple also makes it relatively economical to get batteries replaced. Android devices not so much.

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Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
Android is supposed to have at least 2 OS upgrades for their phones, but many time the product only gets one(1) OS upgrade.

Sometimes none.

The problem is most Android phones, tablets and streaming devices run a heavily-modified version of the OS, and the vendor and/or carrier have modified or replaced the UI, as well. So every time Google pushes a new update, the manufacturers and/or carriers have to back-port their changes to it before they can push an update.

It often just never happens, even with critical security updates. In this way Android is even worse a security nightmare than MS-Windows has traditionally been.

And it shows. I see regular security alerts relating to Android devices on my various security-oriented lists. Rarely do I see the same for Apple devices. (This, as I noted earlier, was one of the precipitating reasons we switched to iOS in the ensigmatic household.)

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Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
Where as iphones are supported much longer. The Iphone 7 came out in September 2016 with iOS 10.0.1 and I believe it is still supported by the current iOS 13.x.

It goes further than that. My wife's and my iPhone 6S', first released in fall, 2015, are still supported.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Anyone have a Galaxy A51? I’m thinking it’s what I’ll go with.

i recently jumped from 8+ to 10+ & couldn't be happier.

former s3, s5 & note5 user.

I have a government issued iPhone 8 for work and a Note 10+ (previously Note 8, Note 5, and Note 3). I would rather cut off my left arm than use the iphone for more than just checking email and calling people.

The 10+ is truly phenomenal. I almost ditched the Note and went with a Pixel this go around, but I am so used to using the S pen I just couldn't give it up.

And we just got word that the next issued phones will be Galaxy S10s so I couldn't be happier right about now.

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Originally posted by smschulz:

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I’m sick of the God damned planned obsolescence.

It's not that it is planned ~ it is that it moves forward.

You're kidding yourself with word games. You are fooling yourself if you actually believe that manufacturers of these phones and countless other items sell you their goods with no plans of you purchasing a replacement within a couple of years. If everyone were like me- holding on to and using until complete product failure items like phones, Samsung (or Apple) execs would shit a brick. "WHY ISN'T ANYONE BUYING OUR NEW 1500 DOLLAR PHONE??"
A while back, I asked about smartphone screen repair, because my phone screen developed a hairline crack when I dropped it or sat on it, whatever. You can get the screen replaced for less than a hundred bucks. Well, I decided to not even bother with it, but I had a member tell me that I could buy a refurb'd S5 from some vendor or other for about the same price.

Why would I do that? My phone works just fine. The crack is minor. All my apps run. The phone has full functionality. Doesn't stall, lag or lock up. Last year, the device stopped receiving OS updates, but that's not unexpected. The same is true for my first gen iPad Mini. Doesn't seem to make a bit of difference (cue the security people who tell me that I am at risk of my phone being hacked! Nope. I use my phone like I use all other durable goods I purchase- to the point of failure, and only then do I replace these items.

High end Android phones these days are actually very secured (my 2016 S7 edge still got OS updates from Google until late 2019). I read a recent report from White Hat hackers that Androids, especially Pixel's are near impossible to hack into. It's back and forth between Android (high end from major brands and Pixel) vs iPhone:

This is supported by a look at smartphone cracking company Cellebrite’s effectiveness at breaking into different phones. Cellebrite can easily open up any iPhone X or earlier iPhone, but the same software used on a Google Pixel 2 or Galaxy S9 extracts very little information, and nothing at all in the case of the Huawei P20 Pro.

Police say Android phones are harder to crack than iPhones

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Cellebrite was less successful with phones running Android and other operating systems, though. The UFED tool was unable to properly extract any social media, internet browsing, or GPS data from devices like the Google Pixel 2 and Samsung Galaxy S9 or messages and call logs from the Ellipsis 8 and Galaxy Tab S2 tablets. It got absolutely nothing from Huawei’s P20 Pro phone.

“Some of the newer operating systems are harder to get data from than others. I think a lot of these [phone] companies are just trying to make it harder for law enforcement to get data from these phones ... under the guise of consumer privacy,” Detective Rex Kiser, who conducts digital forensic examinations for the Fort Worth Police Department, told Motherboard. “Right now, we’re getting into iPhones. A year ago we couldn’t get into iPhones, but we could get into all the Androids. Now we can’t get into a lot of the Androids.”

Cellebrite

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

I do every two generations. Not because they are obsolete, but because I want latest and greatest. Also I don't have a real camera, so I really want the best cellphone camera I can get to take pics of my kitties, dinners, guns, and my car.

Skins, you're still married, right?

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Originally posted by stickman428:
It’s time for a change. You want to know why?

I’m sick of the God damned planned obsolescence. I’m sick of my phone activating the absolute stupid once it gets a few years old. There is NO FUCKING REASON for autocorrect to suddenly acquire a complete inability to function as it used to.

Those fuckers made my phone stupid intentionally. They got sued for it and weaseled their way out of what should have been a billion dollar law suit.

I’m sick of fucking with the cursor on the “intelligent touch screen” which often highlights and then deletes everything I just typed.

I’m sick of the smug mother fuckers who bend the knee at the alter of Apple and worship its mediocrity.

I’m sick of the terrible battery life.

I’m sick of fucking with a phone for 7 hours only to discover that the SIM card is incompatible. This is after painstakingly deleting things in hopes a new OS will allow the old phone to transfer its info to the new phone.

I am so god damned sick of Apple I don’t think this post is even necessary.

Which Samsung do you guys recommend? I’m giving this phone to my dad (he could use a better phone) and starting over.

Oh and fuck apple

I feel the same way, and get a chapped ass every time I have to do anything with the wife's iphone,

for whatever reason her office integrates better with it , no idea why,


I used Droids for years, then switched to a Google Pixel 3XL,

much better phone

Including my current phone, my last five have been either Samsung or HTC.

I keep them 2-3yrs on average, and do not baby them, and have no real complaints.

I've had (work) iPhones, too. Never saw the big deal. Never was much easier or different.

(shrug)

Just get any new top shelf phone.

The supposed differences are overstated.

^^^^ this is what I wanted to hear, F Apple and F their fan boys

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Originally posted by stickman428:
I wasted about 6-7 hours total yesterday fighting with an archaic iPhone 6 and an IPhone 8+.

Sounds like operator error not hardware/software problems.

Rrrrright. It’s my fault the god damned phone said 4-5gb data available THEN ERASED THAT SHIT

You don’t know shit. I pray you get to deal hands on with this level of incompetence for hours so I can take a massive dump on your FN thread asshole

Oh and by the way fuck you

Hey RHINO why do you only show up in my threads to take a shit? Why don’t you ever contribute anything Of value ?

Cool your jets, killer.

It’s all good. But if you can’t contribute to the thread then why not STFU