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This deserves its own thread: Vivek Ramaswamy opens the whole can of whoopass tonight
November 08, 2023, 10:07 PM
old rugged crossThis deserves its own thread: Vivek Ramaswamy opens the whole can of whoopass tonight
I am not surprised you say that Zm.
Admittedly I do not know tons about him. But as I said a couple of months ago. I like him and like his thought process.
I sense a bit of passion and pissed off in what Para has posted. I find it refreshing and he see's it correctly as far as I am concerned and good for him for having the courage to tell it exactly as it is. This is a good thing.
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November 08, 2023, 10:10 PM
sigmonkeyTrump-Ramaswamy
.....2024....
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November 08, 2023, 10:19 PM
ZSMICHAELquote:
So, you will vote for Vivek, based on my scenario of him vs a commie. And you know exactly what I mean when I said "commie" there.
^^^^^^^^^^^
I misunderstood the term Commie and took it to mean Communist. I know your heritage to some degree and I did mean to lecture you if you meant Communist. But no, I would never vote for him. He is a bull in a China shop and would fail as miserably as Biden in the diplomacy department. Blowhards like him got their ass kicked where I grew up.
November 08, 2023, 10:46 PM
Balzé HalzéTo the video in the OP...
Brother, that is damn right.
I saw a headline earlier that Nikki was super big mad at Vivek on stage. All I said to myself was, "Lady, deal with it."
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November 09, 2023, 12:05 AM
Balzé HalzéApparently, The New York Post is all up Nikki's ass.
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Republican debate verdict: ‘Impressive’ Haley shines, ‘stupid’ Vivek self-destructs
Appropriately for a debate aired by NBC, Vivek Ramaswamy was the biggest loser of Wednesday night’s third Republican primary gabfest, The Post’s panel of political experts unanimously agreed.
“He was way too hot and way too nasty,” said Republican consultant Rob Ryan of the 38-year-old biotech entrepreneur. “Hurt himself big time.”
“As sanctimonious and tedious as ever,” agreed Democratic consultant Chris Coffey.
The night’s biggest talking point was the moment when Ramaswamy defended himself from criticism by Nikki Haley over his use of TikTok by pointing out that Haley’s adult daughter also dabbled in the alleged Chinese spy app.
That drew an angry response from Haley, who told her rival to “keep my daughter’s name out of your voice,” before dismissing Ramaswamy as “scum.”
“Going after Nikki Haley’s daughter was a stupid thing,” said Ryan.
Democratic consultant Hank Sheinkopf agreed, also telling The Post Vivek’s attack was “stupid” and “didn’t work.”
Sheinkopf added that Vivek’s earlier salvo at Haley, in which he accused her of being “Dick Cheney in three-inch heels” also didn’t work, and in fact “only made her look better.”
O’Brien Murray, who advises Republicans and moderate Democrats, added that Haley’s retort that she was wearing “five-inch heels” and they were “not for a fashion statement,” but for “ammunition” was a “fantastic response.”
“It’s obvious Nikki Haley is scaring everyone,” Murray said. “They went after her, and she was good on her feet with her comebacks. That was the big takeaway.”
The former South Carolina governor received high marks from all The Post experts for her performance, which came off the back of polls showing her catching up to — and in some cases passing — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in the early states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
“Nikki Haley’s greatest attribute is that she’s a woman taking on four men,” said Ryan. “She knows the issues and presents them well. DeSantis better watch out.”
(Please, don't make me vomit.) “Haley looked like the center of attention,” said Coffey, who added that the 51-year-old had “the best debate of the bunch,” while Sheinkopf concurred that the former ambassador to the United Nations had “led the pack.”
“She was most energetic. She had the facts and figures and
had the guts to take on all the boys,” 
he said. “She had the guts to take on Trump right away. She said the party has to move beyond Trump and look forward.
“DeSantis, Vivek and [Chris] Christie want to stop Haley. They tried to slow her down. She repelled the attacks,” Sheinkopf added. “She answered the questions and didn’t take the bull from anybody. DeSantis is afraid of her. That’s why he went at her.”
The Florida governor got mixed reviews, with Ryan saying DeSantis “gets a gold star for most improved debating skills,” but Coffey saying he “didn’t stand out” and did nothing that might kick-start a polling rise.
And blah blah blah...
https://nypost.com/2023/11/08/...yp&utm_medium=social
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November 09, 2023, 12:28 AM
Rey HRHquote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Oh…and lastly, the RNC hires NBC to conduct a Republican debate. Vivek is correct…what a FARCE!!
Seriously, this was a wake up slap to the face. I've accepted this as a given and now realize he's right. They wouldn't hire Greg Gutfeld to moderate a Democratic debate and yet Republicans are used to the reverse.
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November 09, 2023, 12:32 AM
Rey HRHI like Vivek before for his different take on things, as in different but may not necessarily correct but worthy of consideration of his ideas. But the snippets of him I would have expected to be simply "desperation" attempts of moving up in the polls but he was exploding actual truth bombs.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
November 09, 2023, 08:17 AM
cruiser68He was exploding truth bombs. What an excellent description. I loved watching it.
November 09, 2023, 08:35 AM
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November 09, 2023, 08:55 AM
Rick LeeRNC fundraising is gonna be hurting for that statement. Any Vivek supporter who might have otherwise sent the RNC a check now never will. There was no reason for her to say the quiet part out loud, even if it was true. If Vivek ends up on the ticket, the RNC will be hurting badly for cash for other races. And that means they need to fire McDaniel ASAP to clear up this stuff.
November 09, 2023, 08:56 AM
ggilequote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
If he could deliver his message with much less attitude and arrogance
The Republican party could stand to have more of this, in my opinion. Most of them remind me of a bunch of snooty milquetoasts!
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November 09, 2023, 09:00 AM
nhracecraft'Snooty Milquetoasts' is an certainly apt description if I've ever heard one...The RNC is playing a losing game here, and the consequences could very well be the end of the RNC!
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November 09, 2023, 09:05 AM
chellim1quote:
The RNC is playing a losing game here, and the consequences could very well be the end of the RNC!
The simple answer to the RNC is don't give them money. Keep your money local. Support local candidates. Turn things around from the ground up.
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smschulzquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
The simple answer to the RNC is don't give them money.
Keep your money local.
Support local candidates.
Turn things around from the ground up.
The RNC calls me
everyday .
Talked to them once and said my peace (or is it piece?).
Just have to ignore the call
everyday, at least I can see them coming with caller-ID.

November 09, 2023, 09:11 AM
bryan11It's seemed for a while like the RNC is a media branch of the Democratic party. They put on a bit of a show and that's it.
November 09, 2023, 09:18 AM
darthfusterI would like to see Vivek succeed in politics. He and Trump if they could work together, would result in decades of prosperity and peace.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier November 09, 2023, 09:33 AM
parabellumHe's worthy of a cabinet position, although he has stated he is running for president and not the vice-presidency or anything else. We shall see.
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November 09, 2023, 09:43 AM
sigspecopsAll of the negative things said about Vivek are exactly the same things that were said about Trump. The comments about how arrogant and full of himself Vivek is, look exactly like comments made about Trump in the 2016 debates.
Oh, and remember how Trump was going to be a tragic disaster when it came to foreign policy? Yeah, the same comments.
It's unbelievable that after all that has happened since 2016, people are still getting their panties in a wad over these disrespectful hooligans.
Oh, why can't they be quiet, respectful and follow the rules like the other ineffective, establishment piece of shit candidates?
I've waited my entire life to see people talk like Trump and Vivek. It's like a cleansing rain over the stale, GOP swamp politics. I love it.
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