This deserves its own thread: Vivek Ramaswamy opens the whole can of whoopass tonight
quote:
Selling out Trump in 2024 will be a fatal mistake for the GOP
I don’t think this will happen. I’m involved in planning the Missouri caucuses and there is overwhelming support for Donald Trump. There will be multiple Trump slates and hardly anyone for any of the other candidates. We are fighting among ourselves about who gets to support trump at the next level caucus.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
January 13, 2024, 10:48 PM
parabellum
“You want to save Trump, you vote for me. If you vote for Trump, you’re sending him to his own demise.”
That doesn't make one lick of sense. Clearly, of course, Ramaswamy wants to be POTUS. He does himself a disservice by cloaking his desire in a phony claim of somehow saving Donald Trump by defeating him. Better to run a straight campaign by saying "I am a better choice" which is implicit in all candidacies.
The Trump Faithful are furious. I've seen quite a few comments like the one below; Leo Terrell and others. It's a good thing that Ramaswamy has stated flatly that he's not interested in being VP and not interested in a cabinet position, because I think his misstep has guaranteed that he will never be troubled with making that decision.
"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
January 14, 2024, 09:23 AM
12131
Oh, I see now why Trump was blasting VR, as posted in the Trump thread. Yeah, that was stupid move by VR.
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January 14, 2024, 09:29 AM
darthfuster
Oops. VR stepped on his primary sexual characteristic.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 14, 2024, 10:40 AM
oddball
Ramaswamy was trying to walk that tightrope of saying Trump is one of the greatest presidents, yet trying to run against him. He just fell off the rope.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
January 14, 2024, 11:25 AM
divil
VR probably needs to stop commenting on that particular (vote for me to save DJT) subject. The more opportunities a person has to speak publicly the more opportunities they have to make a gaff.
That said, for me, while I will vote for Trump, my opinion of VR is still extremely favorable. VR has torched the establishment media whores and is the first GOP candidate that expressed an interest in disbanding the FBlIe. For those remarks alone, I will give VR a lot of leeway.
January 14, 2024, 03:04 PM
parabellum
This is getting silly. If the polls were "rigged" Donald Trump would not be showing as being several lengths ahead of the pack.
From the article: "After working in Silicon Valley and Wall Street, Ramaswamy founded biotech company Roivant Sciences in 2014. The following year he raised $360 million for the Roivant subsidiary Axovant Sciences in order to market an Alzheimer's drug that had previously failed four separate clinical trials. He then raised another $315 million in the IPO. Shortly thereafter, the company's market value reached almost $3 billion. Two years later, their drug failed its fifth clinical trial. The company cratered, losing over 70% of its value in a single day. Ramaswamy’s investors would be the quintessential bag-holders, while he made out with windfall profits at their expense.
And yet in 2017, Roivant partnered with the private equity arm of the CCP’s CITIC Group to form yet another fraudulent company called Sinovant. Shortly thereafter, SoftBank invested $1.1 billion in Roivant. In 2019, Roivant sold its stake in five subsidiaries, and Ramaswamy pocketed $175 million from the deal.
Roivant has never produced a single viable product, and has never turned a profit; in other words, Roivant was always nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme, and an egregious one at that.
Despite never having created anything in his life other than a series of companies engaged in various blatant scams, Forbes recently estimated Ramaswamy's net worth to be more than $950 million.
But it gets worse, because as it turns out the very corporations such as BlackRock and Vanguard that Ramaswamy has been vehemently denouncing were doing business with him all along."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If this holds true look for the WSJ to do some investigation. Their reporters exposed Theranos and other frauds.
January 15, 2024, 08:11 AM
downeastnc1
I said about vivek a few months ago that i remember someone else a few years ago coming out of nowhere spewing what everyone wants to hear.
January 15, 2024, 09:02 AM
oddball
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
January 15, 2024, 09:06 AM
chellim1
^^^ Never Barack Down.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
January 15, 2024, 10:23 AM
chellim1
Did Dr. David Martin just end Vivek Ramaswamy's presidential campaign?
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
January 15, 2024, 11:12 AM
SigSentry
quote:
Originally posted by downeastnc1: I said about vivek a few months ago that i remember someone else a few years ago coming out of nowhere spewing what everyone wants to hear.
Right?
January 15, 2024, 11:45 AM
6guns
Well, I used to like Vivek...
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January 15, 2024, 12:45 PM
ZSMICHAEL
To paraphrase Loyd Benson, Vivek is no Ronald Reagan.
He’s trying to steer his crash landing into a soft piece of earth. Best move he had left, probably. He accomplished his stated goal from just after his announcement: getting on the debate stages to steer the conversation.
January 16, 2024, 05:02 AM
gearhounds
quote:
He has suspended his campaign.
And is endorsing Trump- perhaps he recovered a bit of his senses but we got a peek behind the curtain.
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