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According to Mark Smith at Four Boxes Diner the Supreme Court of the United States has just granted cert to AWB cases Viramontes v. Cook County (Illinois) and Grant v. Higgins (Connecticut). Video below. Note that though there are TWO cases they will be consolidated together and thus heard as a single AWB case challenge. Info from SCOTUSblog explains this and states the main issue is: Whether the Second and 14th Amendments guarantee the right to possess AR-15 platform and similar semiautomatic rifles. https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/grant-v-higgins/ "The US Supreme Court has granted cert in the Viramontes v. Cook County and Grant v. Higgins cases involving whether AR-15 semi-automatic rifles can be banned consistent with the Second Amendment. Mark Smith, Four Boxes Diner, discusses..."This message has been edited. Last edited by: grumpy1, | ||
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I'm going to start saving my shekels for the victory party right now! LINK ___________________________________________ Life Member NRA & Washington Arms Collectors Mistake not my current state of joshing gentle peevishness for the awesome and terrible majesty of the towering seas of ire that are themselves the milquetoast shallows fringing my vast oceans of wrath. Velocitas Incursio Vis - Gandhi The good thing is that if Plan A fails, there are 25 other letters in the alphabet. | |||
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I want to see Lamont get smacked down ! "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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That fella is quite confident. Hope for y’all restricted folks. For me that means I need to buy my next AR by the end of the year before the surge in buying arrives. ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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I'm not familiar enough with the cases, but my natural next question is what effect this will have on "Grabigail's" anti-gun efforts here in Virginia. Politicians seem to have forgotten that they work for us, not the other way around. — — — — — — — — — — — — God bless America. | |||
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Interesting in that Bill Kirk of Washington Gun Law did a deep dive on the very recent, as in a few days ago, Wolford decision and found a lot of very positive language including reinforcing/clarifying Bruen case language, almost like they were preparing for the AWB cases. | |||
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Assuming a positive outcome, which I think is very likely, at minimum nullify most if not all language in state and local level "assault" weapon bans. | |||
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That would be a dream come true. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Lots of legaleeze but it looks like 2027 is going to be a winning year. Let's pray Alito stays on to see this through. | |||
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Indeed. And entirely the right thing. Politicians seem to have forgotten that they work for us, not the other way around. — — — — — — — — — — — — God bless America. | |||
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We can certainly hope, but a question will likely be what does “ban” mean. In Colorado no outright state ban has been or is being implemented but starting 1 August there will be a very onerous process required to purchase an AR-type gun. I have avoided looking into precise details, but as it’s been discussed, it’s first necessary to apply to the sheriff of one’s county to be permitted to even attend the required training. As I understand it, that includes paying for a background check (the first). After that’s approved, then the applicant can and must attend two training sessions, and not necessarily in a convenient location. After completing that, they are given permission to actually purchase a gun in the normal manner. The process is obviously intended to make purchasing the gun as difficult and protracted as possible without actually saying, “No, you can’t own one,” and of course that’s similar to other measures often imposed by various jurisdictions with no purpose other than to harass gun owners. So, if outright bans are prohibited, will there be any relief from the other infringements? ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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^ the list of "Specified Semiautomatic Firearms" (SSFs) comes out tomorrow 7-1-26. No, not a outright ban but they can update the list as they discover what they missed and new models come to market. I just completed my CHP renewal class (2 hours classroom and 2 hours shooting, long because we had 8 people). I can't imagine sitting through 2 6 hours sessions, or 4 hours with a hunter safety certificate before I can get the permission slip. I assume though, once you have the card, you are good for any future purchases. They want gun stores out of business that's apparent. | |||
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Indeed. One of the motives. ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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Yes the progressive left will never give up. They will change to "common sense restrictions" like a $10,000 permit fee to buy and own "assault weapons" or a $10,000 tax per "weapon", or subjecting purchasers to heavy fees and investigations/invasions of privacy for passing "person of good character and of sound mind" qualification to purchase or publicly published lists of those that own "assault weapons" to be targeted for harassment and firearm red flag law abuse. Hopefully the court can address this and other such potential BS ahead of time. Would not be surprised if some or many states simply ignore a ruling against AWB. You know "Trump appointed Justices supported this". | |||
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Illinois has lost countless FFLs and small gun shops and some big ones too under the Pritzker regime. So even if his Illinois AWB is nullified a LOT of damage has already been done. | |||
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Washington state has about half as many FFLs now after all the shenanigans the grabbers have saddled us with over the last ten years. 
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One can only pray. Trying to figure out leftist thinking can only lead to drinking, or screaming bad words. -------- After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box. | |||
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Does anyone know if magazine capacities will be addressed in either the Viramontes or Grant cases? I’ll take any win I can but it sure would suck to purchase a semi auto rifle and still be limited to 10 rounds, and then have to wait until the Supreme agrees to hear a separate case addressing capacities. | |||
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I have seen speculation elsewhere that mag capacity *may* be addressed since the restrictions of one of these cases includes that in addition to various other AR characteristics. Apparently, the court also has held over 2 mag capacity cases to the Fall session. | |||
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Having lived as a long suffering NY gun owner ( feel very fortunate that chapter of my life is over!!) using NY as an example, the instant a court decision informs a place like NY “ you can do that, they have an end around legislation bill sittting ready to go to circumvent the ruling, which then results in a new round of judicial wrangling. Much like the Vietnam cong, the American leftist is playing the long game, waiting us out until exhaustion takes hold and we quit. Right after Bruen, NY was forced to move to a “ shall issue” carry permit system. Before the ink was dry, a bill passed requiring frequent permit renewals, extended class requirements, costly permitting fees, and the “ vampire “ approach to carry- unless a “ guns welcome” sign is displayed you can’t go in with the gun. Part of the latest legal decision has to do with this “ vampire” doctrine. The end result ( in NY anyway) is we will issue the permit then make 90+% of the state private and public space a gun free zone | |||
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