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Originally posted by Stlhead:
The lawyer who agreed to take the case should be tazed, and the guy should get it again for trying to get rich off taking his lumps. I am not a cop lover, but I certainly would not second guess one for tasing someone who had led them on any sort of pursuit. The whole point of the taser is to offer a less lethal option, the dude did not get shot or curb stomped, he should be happy with that.

The pursuit was over. Was Sigg not complying with Officer Tazer? His hands are up; but he gets tazered anyway, and you think this is right? The cop needed to drain his adrenaline and attitude, put his professionalism back on and deal with the suspect accordingly. I totally agree with erj_pilot's point. Maybe Officer Tazer should find another line of work.

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Originally posted by Stlhead:
The lawyer who agreed to take the case should be tazed, and the guy should get it again for trying to get rich off taking his lumps. I am not a cop lover, but I certainly would not second guess one for tasing someone who had led them on any sort of pursuit. The whole point of the taser is to offer a less lethal option, the dude did not get shot or curb stomped, he should be happy with that.

Are you serious? Without seeing any video, or having been there, you wouldn't ever second guess tasing an 80 year old man with his hands up?

Seriously hope you're not a cop.

He should be happy he didn't get curb stomped? Do you think this was some kind felony high-speed pursuit where the guy was tossing hand-grenades out the window? WTF?

FFS.

Lot's of judgement(s) here...Do we even know with any certainty if he was 9 MPH over, or 3 over the speed limit at this point? Regardless, I can't imagine deploying a Tazer in either circumstance!

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Originally posted by 229DAK:
I totally agree with erj_pilot's point. Maybe Officer Tazer should find another line of work.

Not sure what line of work he's in now, but he's a former deputy according to the article in the OP's post

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"Get on the f—ing ground,” a now-former deputy with the Allen County Sheriff’s Office yelled

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Originally posted by 229DAK:
The cop needed to drain his adrenaline and attitude, put his professionalism back on and deal with the suspect accordingly.

He couldn't take the hit to his ego that Sigg was apparently not submitting to his authoritay.

The court should have taken his license. 80yr old man who can't seem to notice a line of police cars following him shouldn't be in control of a motor vehicle.

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Originally posted by Stlhead:
... I certainly would not second guess [a cop] for tasing someone who had led them on any sort of pursuit.

Depending upon whom you believe, that "pursuit" was all of a whole mile. Some "pursuit."

Should he have pulled over more promptly? Yes. No question.

Not saying it's the case here, but sometimes there's good cause for not pulling over immediately.

E.g.: I got lit up one evening. Instead of pulling over to the side of a very busy road with a narrow shoulder, in the dark, I proceeded to a small subdivision I knew was less than a hundred yards away, pulled into that, and stopped there. The cop, in the meantime, had briefly hit his siren when I didn't comply immediately. Knowing he might be annoyed with me, I explained why I'd done what I'd done while I was fetching my DL and registration.

He mellowed right out. I was not ticketed.

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Originally posted by Stlhead:
The whole point of the taser is to offer a less lethal option,

You don't think there should be some element of uncooperativeness, non-compliance, resistance, or threat to the officers? Do you see any of that in the photo or get any indication of any of that from the description of the stop?

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Originally posted by Stlhead:
... the dude did not get shot or curb stomped, he should be happy with that.

Wow. Good thing you're not a cop.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

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Originally posted by 229DAK:
The cop needed to drain his adrenaline and attitude, put his professionalism back on and deal with the suspect accordingly.

He couldn't take the hit to his ego that Sigg was apparently not submitting to his authoritay.

I read stuff like this pretty regularly. I think in a lot of cases it's less ego than it is a combination of a lack of mental preparedness and a lack of physical preparedness leading to a lack of critical thinking. I'm not justifying, but I think attributing every one of "these" incidents to somebody's ego or attitude is short sighted.

Policing is a thinking game and when guys don't think, unsatisfactory things happen. If the mind is not ready for where the body ends up going, it's usually not a good result.

My concern is the old guys driving. He must be deaf as well as cognitively diminished. Hopefully this is a wake up for him. No clue why he was deemed a threat and wouldn't even want to speculate on the cops reasoning...maybe just frustration and possibly the cop just isn't aware that old people start to act strange at a certain point.

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sometimes there's good cause for not pulling over immediately.

I think we had a forum member arrested in Florida and taken into custody while on vacation with his family for not stopping immediately in the middle of a bridge for a traffic stop.

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My concern is the old guys driving. He must be deaf

Deaf people can drive, even commercially.

ArtieS, the entire country needs to deliver “street justice”. I’d like to see some administered, rather than tie up the courts time.
That’s just me.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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My concern is the old guys driving. He must be deaf

Deaf people can drive, even commercially.

That's interesting. I would guess that by now there might be technology that could convert sounds to visual prompts to aid these drivers.

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Originally posted by Stlhead:
The whole point of the taser is to offer a less lethal option, the dude did not get shot or curb stomped, he should be happy with that.

Not much thought was put into this post.

This senior citizen of advanced age did not lead anyone on a "pursuit" . One mile of driving at 34 MPH, then pulling into a parking lot is not a police pursuit.

As far as a "less lethal option", 50,000 volts of energy going into an 80 year old man can be damaging and lethal. In this episode, an elderly man was tased in his own home without warning, fell, hit his head on a piece of furniture, and suffered heart complications and a stroke from the incident, also suffering a burst appendix and also requiring neck surgery. The idiot officer was fired and faced criminal charges. The victim was never the same again, having a host of health issues since.

Small towns nationwide struggle to find officers and they end up with green young kids fresh out of the academy, that officer has no idea on what constitutes a pursuit, or when to use a Tazer.
He probably would have been terminated after an internal investigation by our agency. I will not initiate a traffic stop for nine over unless I want to stop that particular vehicle. He should have gotten a warning and had a DL review submitted to the state.

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Originally posted by Shaql:
The court should have taken his license. 80yr old man who can't seem to notice a line of police cars following him shouldn't be in control of a motor vehicle.

I would agree with that as it fits the crime. The dipshit with the taser should be hit with attempted murder given his victim's age. WTF is the matter with someone who would think that was an option?

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
For this very reason, in Georgia there are a number of anti-speed trap laws.


https://www.nationalspeedlimit...ed-limit-in-georgia/

Ludowici Ga. was famous fo its speed traps 55 years ago.

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Originally posted by 220-9er:

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Originally posted by 357fuzz:

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
For this very reason, in Georgia there are a number of anti-speed trap laws.


https://www.nationalspeedlimit...ed-limit-in-georgia/

How do you know it was speed trap? I didn’t see anything in the article about a speed trap. Officer could have just been cruising around using his radar. Irregardless the officer’s actions seemed way over the top.

No way for any of us to know just reading news reports. We're all making a judgement from the safety of our keyboards.
That said and looking at the photo in post #1, would you like to be heading into court and defending your position based on that photo?

Uhhh.. No. hence my last sentence in my response. Thank you.

I volunteer to chauffeur the man around sin city.

He goan make it rain, catch some jiggly!



I like that chick with the mohawk. I'll look out for her.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
9 over in a 25 isn’t chicken shit. It gets you pulled over in most places I’ve lived and given a warning. Not pulling over is what got him in trouble and is in fact what he plead guilty to.

Teasing him sounds excessive, but I wasn’t there.

It sure as shit doesn't get you TASED at 80 years old IF you have your hands in the air and are 80 hears old. Here in Florida 9 mph doesn't even get a second glance from a police officer.

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Originally posted by bdylan:

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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My concern is the old guys driving. He must be deaf

Deaf people can drive, even commercially.

That's interesting. I would guess that by now there might be technology that could convert sounds to visual prompts to aid these drivers.

I would think their visual acuity would be above ours w/ regards to mirrors and such, but,
Back in the 90's I worked w/ a guy who was deaf. I would type for him on computer during meetings, basically my best impersonation of a court stenographer so he could participate.

He once described to me being in a similar situation where he didn't pull over right away and he tried to explain but the irate cop didn't believe him that he was deaf. His speech was that of someone deaf from birth and would choose to write words to communicate.