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Who do you think wrote this? I guess with the OSU budget they can afford speechwriters. | |||
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So, he admits that he knew about the 2015 incident...and kept him on his staff. Also admits he outright lied in the press conference when he was asked about it 9 times. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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he's dead, jim we'll see him as a talking head on espn in a year or three --------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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The man said that he passed it up the chain of command. Thank God we are innocent until proven guilty and not tried by mob rule. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Lying to the enemy of the people? BFD. Press conferences and statements aren’t under oath. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Which means he knew that the coach that he hired was beating his wife after hiring him knowing he had beat her when she was pregnant, and kept him on staff. He had just said that he had no knowledge of anything happening after the 2009 beating of the pregnant wife. We now know, from his own statement, that that was an outright lie. I don't see how he's being 'tried by mob rule' when the university has put him on leave while a committee investigates. Sounds like the system is working as it should. He chose to release this statement on his own. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Of course there is no legal penalty for lying to the press. What this statement means though is that he knew his assistant was beating his wife and left him on his staff. So, he knew the guy beat his pregnant wife, hired him anyway, knew that he beat her again in 2015 and decided that this was the kind of guy he wanted on his staff teaching and leading young men. I understand OSU fans think this is piling on, 'trying him', being mean, etc - these are just the facts. Yesterday the cry was 'he didn't know' and no one can prove that he had any knowledge of the 2015 beating. Well, now we have the facts - he knew...Unless he is lying again. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Move Up or Move Over |
Well, he either did or he didn't. If he did, I really hope he kept records. I can't imagine someone in this day and age not being smart enough to do that. Be prepared for some mid-level assistant AD to be fired for violating University Policy. 6 months from now someone will write a big check and everything will be back to normal. Gotta protect those championship coaches. They generate way too much income to allow a little wife beating stop the gravy train... | |||
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Wait. What does the statement say? It says he has “always followed proper reporting protocols and procedures when I have learned of an incident..... And I did so regarding the Zach Smith incident in 2015.” Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
Except that he is not in a court of law. His fate will be decided by a group of people based on their PERCEPTIONS of his behavior and whether or not they want him to be the face of their athletic program. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Yes, the 2015 incident that he denied multiple times knowing anything about: This message has been edited. Last edited by: BamaJeepster, “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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He's not required to "pass it up the chain of command." He's required to report it to the authorities, which he did not do. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Bookers Bourbon and a good cigar |
Paterno reported the "reported to him" incidents to the PSU Athletic Director. Look what happened to JoePa. If you're goin' through hell, keep on going. Don't slow down. If you're scared don't show it. You might get out before the devil even knows you're there. NRA ENDOWMENT LIFE MEMBER | |||
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in the #metoo age...He's done _________________________ | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
His contract has certain provisions about these things. He says he complied. With close to $40 million riding on it, it will end up in court, or settled, to the extent that compliance is adequate. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Man Once Child Twice |
I hope not. As a Buckeyes fan I’m hoping he weathers the storm. He grew up in my hometown. There’s a local watering hole|restaurant there he frequents when he’s in town. Lots of OSU and Urban memorabilia on the walls. Almost a shrine. It’s also got one of the best burgers I ever had. So I’m prejudiced. So there. | |||
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You are entitled to your opinion. BTW besides still getting paid, does administrative leave mean watching from the pressbox or the TV in his home? | |||
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According to a non scientific poll on the local ABC/Fox affiliate it is a very popular opinion. Very few say they want Urban to go. Not to drift but since the victim had already reported the incidents what real effect would Myer's involvement had? Fire the guy so he could beat her in a much less nicer home? _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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What would you do if you were Urban? Me, I would have fired the assistant coach. I had a recent experience where an employee created a hostile work environment. That is how HR labeled the behavior. The employee was someone who I had direct responsibility for, and it came to my attention that he referred to an employee of a subcontractor with a racial epithet. He told a young black man "you'll do as I say nigger". My employee had anger management issues and just a few weeks earlier I told him to treat others with respect as he would want to be treated. I couldn't get past the racial slur. Took it to HR and he was terminated. This thread can be easily summed up with how would you have handled a wife beater? ------------------------------ Smart is not something you are but something you get. Chi Chi, get the yayo | |||
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Man Once Child Twice |
I bet it was bumped upstairs. They determined what to do. After all, the asst coach was Earle Bruce’s grand son. An OSU great. | |||
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