Conservative Review
Chris Pandolfo · August 6, 2018

Mass. Dems step on their own gender PC rake and get slammed right in the face

A conservative state lawmaker in Massachusetts demonstrated exceptionally well how conservatives need to fight in state legislatures last week, single-handedly defeating a bill that would allow people to list their genders as “X” on driver’s licenses or other forms of state ID.

Massachusetts Senate President Karen Spilka, D-Ashland, introduced S.2562, which would allow an individual to check “X” instead of male or female at the Registry of Motor Vehicles when the person is applying for a driver’s license, permit, or other form of identification. Praising the bill as a “joyous occasion” for kids’ lives, Spilka said if it would help people feel more comfortable in their gender confusion, “Why not do it?”

“There’s no reason for somebody to have to check off a box of male or female on their license,” she said, according to MassLive.

Social conservatives objected, and Rep. Jim Lyons, R-Andover, decided to throw the Democrats’ gender political correctness right back in their faces, claiming the proposed bill was discriminatory. Only listing three genders — male, female, and “X” — left out those who identify as “gender fluid,” or “gender questioning,” or “trigender,” “trans male,” “trans woman,” “androgynous,” “pangender,” or any one of Facebook’s 73 gender options, and Lyons was ready to do something about it.

The conservative lawmaker prepared 73 amendments to the bill to include each and every gender listed by Facebook. None of his proposed amendments could be ruled out of order, and under House rules, each required 10 minutes of debate with three minutes for a roll call vote. That’s over 15 hours of legislative time. If Democrats really wanted to include this piece of PC gender theory propaganda in law, they would have to go on record opposing each gender amendment vote and delay important votes on real issues.

The Massachusetts legislature’s website shows that Lyons was able to introduce 29 of his amendments before the Democrats surrendered and pulled the bill.

The Boston Herald’s Howie Carr reports that leaving the House building, a reporter asked Lyons why he tanked the gender “X” bill.

“Are you saying you want to leave some genders behind?” Lyons replied.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you turn a premise against the Left and whack them over the heads with it to defeat their dumb proposed laws.

Bravo.

2 + 2 /= 5

The mentally ill people that believe that there are more than 2 genders should be committed to asylums. That would certainly solve our leftist problem.

Yup. If you think there are more than two genders you should be thrown in an asylum.

quote:

Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Yup. If you think there are more than two genders you should be thrown in an asylum.

Or...if you think that you are one gender when, in fact, you are the other, you likewise should be thrown into an asylum.

Good for this legislator for getting the bill killed, but this is not the approach that needs to be taken. Calling them out with reason and rational facts is.

These people are nuts. Plain and simple. People need to be made aware of that fact.

quote:

This, ladies and gentlemen, is how you turn a premise against the Left and whack them over the heads with it to defeat their dumb proposed laws.

Legislative ju-jitsu.

That is great. Use their logic against them.

RMD

"There are 72 genders."
"You want 72 different check boxes on every document?"
"No, Just male/female and X."
"OK....but we have simplified it to "male-ish and female-ish"
"But I want X as an option".
OK, but we already simplified it to JUST ONE less than that. You want to ignore 69 other genders, and we only want to ignore ONE more!"

quote:

Originally posted by Gustofer:

quote:

Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Yup. If you think there are more than two genders you should be thrown in an asylum.

Or...if you think that you are one gender when, in fact, you are the other, you likewise should be thrown into an asylum.

Good for this legislator for getting the bill killed, but this is not the approach that needs to be taken. Calling them out with reason and rational facts is.

These people are nuts. Plain and simple. People need to be made aware of that fact.

I disagree. Are you saying you’d rather him take a principled position, point out the irrationality of the bill, and then watch it become law? I think it’s perfectly fine to play by their rules and WIN. Sure, he could have used his three minutes of debate and told the left how their gender ideas are unsound, and then they would have derisively looked down their noses at how he isn’t “woke” and conservatives are uncaring, and then they would have promptly passed the bill.

Your idea of providing the Massachusetts legislature with facts and reason when the liberals desire to virtue signal is naval gazing for a rational left. It’s a farce to believe that would work. He “out virtued” the left’s virtue. Very effective.

quote:

Good for this legislator for getting the bill killed, but this is not the approach that needs to be taken. Calling them out with reason and rational facts is.

the problem is you can't reason with them and they refuse to recognize fact

so the bullying tactic is the only one that works

bury them all, choke them on their own bullshit

good on him for doing it

I'm pretty sure the Massholes didn't learn anything from this though - you can't fix a mental defect like this

How about the more Libertarian approach.
Remove the gender designation from the license completely.
A picture will do.

Ha! He basically opened the door for them to go full retard!

quote:

Originally posted by 220-9er:
How about the more Libertarian approach.
Remove the gender designation from the license completely.
A picture will do.

Not. Because of freaks like Bruce the mixed up Genner, gender. Got his (its) winky whacked off and grew some boobs. Let his hair grow to female length and pasted on some make up. Its a damned creep. A man is a man and not a female. Like wise. A photo of such should reflect that. Now then, anout the real issues in the State of Mass., any of them so called law makers care to deal with them ?

quote:

Originally posted by 220-9er:
How about the more Libertarian approach.
Remove the gender designation from the license completely.
A picture will do.

Really? Do an internet image search on "cute girly boys" and prepare to be shocked.

Example: Is this a girl or a boy?



It's a boy.

quote:

Originally posted by 220-9er:
How about the more Libertarian approach.
Remove the gender designation from the license completely.
A picture will do.

I think the libertarian approach would be to introduce a bill to make drivers licenses optional.

quote:

Originally posted by Gustofer:

quote:

Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Yup. If you think there are more than two genders you should be thrown in an asylum.

Or...if you think that you are one gender when, in fact, you are the other, you likewise should be thrown into an asylum.

Good for this legislator for getting the bill killed, but this is not the approach that needs to be taken. Calling them out with reason and rational facts is.

These people are nuts. Plain and simple. People need to be made aware of that fact.

Rational thought and logic don't work on people that are nuts. What he did was the only thing they understand.

quote:

Originally posted by gearhounds:
The mentally ill people that believe that there are more than 2 genders should be committed to asylums. That would certainly solve our leftist problem.

According to my wife with the Masters in Psychology and Counseling, it *WAS* considered a mental illness in every textbook and medical journal until maybe 20 years ago.

Don't licenses use your sex, not your gender?

Where sex is the biological value.

Maybe they should change it to XX or X Y chromosomes check boxes

quote:

Originally posted by gearhounds:
The mentally ill people that believe that there are more than 2 genders should be committed to asylums. That would certainly solve our leftist problem.

Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner!!!!

Look at when all of the stupid started taking over in society and you'll see a very distinct correlation with regard to when the mental facilities began shuttering. Lock the crazies back up and our civilization will once again become civil.