http://www.startribune.com/und...by-decree/477145923/

A state agency aims to eliminate racial disparities in schools' response to misbehavior. Its destabilizing course would only spread the disruption.

Minnesota Department of Human Rights (MDHR): In fall 2017, the department sent letters to 43 school districts and charter schools across the state, announcing that the schools are under investigation because their student discipline records suggest that black and Native American students are disciplined at a rate that exceeds their proportion of the student population.

On March 2, the department released a report it said showed that, in the 2015-16 school year, minority students — 31 percent of the state’s student population — accounted for 66 percent of school suspensions and expulsions.

Here, in essence, is MDHR’s position: The primary cause of racial discipline gaps in schools is racist teachers and discipline policies, not differing rates of student misconduct. Schools must move to end these statistical group disparities. If administrators don’t agree to change their practices in ways that reduce black and Native American discipline rates, according to MinnPost, “Lindsey says the state will initiate litigation.”

We’ve seen this movie before, most recently in the St. Paul Public Schools.

In St. Paul schools — as virtually everywhere in the country — black students, as a group, are referred for discipline at higher rates than other students. Starting around 2012, the district’s leaders tried to narrow this gap by lowering behavior expectations and removing meaningful penalties for student misconduct.

For example, they spent millions of dollars on “white privilege” training for teachers, and dropped “continual willful disobedience” as a suspendable offense .

Violence and disorder quickly escalated

In December 2015, after a vicious attack by a student left a high school teacher with a traumatic brain injury, Ramsey County Attorney John Choi labeled the trend of violence a “public health crisis,”

By that time, suspensions — which had initially fallen — had surged to their highest rate in five years. Black students, about 30 percent of the student body, were 77 percent of those suspended. The St. Paul teachers’ union threatened to strike over safety concerns, and families who valued education began flooding out of St. Paul schools.

Today, MDHR seems intent on duplicating this failed social experiment throughout Minnesota. The department — whose use of state law for this purpose appears virtually unprecedented — is probably doing so because the federal government seems poised to back off on enforcing Obama-era race-based discipline “guidance.”

Nationally, white boys are suspended at more than twice the rate of Asian and Pacific Islander boys, while boys in general are suspended much more often than girls.

Is this because teachers are biased against white students and boys? Or does it reflect real differences in conduct?

There are, in fact, real differences in group behavior. For example, nationally, young black males between the ages of 14 and 17 commit homicide at 10 times the rate of whites and Hispanics of the same age.

What accounts for group differences in behavior? A primary factor appears to be profound demographic differences in family structure. Nationally, about 72 percent of African-American and 66 percent of Native American children are born out of wedlock, as opposed to 29 percent and 17 percent of white and Asian children, respectively. Young people who grow up without fathers are far more likely than their peers to engage in antisocial behavior, as voluminous research makes clear.

Minnesota parents should demand to know whether MDHR has targeted their school district or charter school. Other schools will also be under pressure to alter their discipline policies to avoid finding themselves in MDHR’s cross hairs.

Yeah, I’ve been watching this considering my kids are in high school here.

Anyone want to guess “who” causes the majority of the classroom disruptions?

Statistics can be funny that way...

#never_let_the_truth_get_in_the_way_of_a_good_story

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
Yeah, I’ve been watching this considering my kids are in high school here.
Anyone want to guess “who” causes the majority of the classroom disruptions?
Statistics can be funny that way...
#never_let_the_truth_get_in_the_way_of_a_good_story

Statistics perpetuate white privilege!

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Originally posted by MG34_Dan:

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
Yeah, I’ve been watching this considering my kids are in high school here.
Anyone want to guess “who” causes the majority of the classroom disruptions?
Statistics can be funny that way...
#never_let_the_truth_get_in_the_way_of_a_good_story

Statistics perpetuate white privilege!

Cuz math is racist, yo!

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Originally posted by sdy:
their student discipline records suggest that black and Native American students are disciplined at a rate that exceeds their proportion of the student population

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Originally posted by sdy:
The primary cause of racial discipline gaps in schools is racist teachers and discipline policies, not differing rates of student misconduct. Schools must move to end these statistical group disparities.

Anyone else tired of this shit?

Duh, they are clearly being racist since broader crime statistics are always proportional to the percent of population.

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Minnesota Department of Human Rights (MDHR): In fall 2017, the department sent letters to 43 school districts and charter schools across the state, announcing that the schools are under investigation because their student discipline records suggest that black and Native American students are disciplined at a rate that exceeds their proportion of the student population.

The sheer asinine stupidity of this comment is simply beyond belief. Anyone who subscribes to this nonsense should be locked up. By this reasoning, all NFL and NBA teams and their leagues should be investigated and fined because the percentage of black players far outweigh their proportion of the general population. Similar BS worked out really well in Parkland Florida, didn't it? This is absolute stupid-on-steroids.

They are going to do it anyway.

Um didn't they just prove this idea was a total failure in Broward County?

Seriously, is there a single progressive with a lick of common sense?

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
Yeah, I’ve been watching this considering my kids are in high school here.

Anyone want to guess “who” causes the majority of the classroom disruptions?

Statistics can be funny that way...

#never_let_the_truth_get_in_the_way_of_a_good_story

...but according to the article, it's the racist teachers.

The inevitable end to this is a further gap in the upper class and everyone else.

The upper class live in great school districts where these kinds of schools don't exist and/or they send their kids to private schools.

The kids in these public schools are being taught that their conduct is without consequences and that they are victims. Meanwhile, in the wealthy schools, kids are learning their subject and being taught to strive for more.

I'll be honest, I read these stories and don't give one shit. I don't have the time or the desire to deal with this BS. Do what ever you need to do public school board, I'm busy raising my kids free from all this crap.

If this is what the parents in these school districts want, have at it. I live in a quiet suburb full of hard working law abiding citizens and I always will. I'll move if need be to avoid this crap.

No one is coming to save these people. They will get exactly what they ask for and their children will be a direct result of the effort they put in to raise them. I'm worrying about me and mine and suggest everyone do the same.

A good question for SJWs:

How many years would we need continue preferential treatment and programs benefitting certain minorities, with no significant change in the measurable statistics, before we just admitted there was a real difference?
100 ? 150? 200?
I think we would all agree to do whatever it takes to "solve" the "racism accusations problem" if we just knew what the end date would be.

Just shows that because some people have went to institutions of higher learning doesn't mean their smart.This has to be a result of the Liberal/leftist influence of their learning.

Yet another reason why I'm happy home schooling my daughters.

I spent a year working/teaching at an upscale black university here in Virginia. I was ONE OF TWO white teachers on campus and the other guy was part time.

Tuition there was pretty high so few of the lower income population were students there.

Cheating was widely known and apparently condoned because virtually NOTHING was done to stop it. Until I got there. I published my course requirements, including the punishment for cheating. Had 3 students that cheated during the first semester, none the second.

The accounting department teachers told me they were experiencing about 30% of their students cheating. Their answer was to try to make it harder to cheat by making up several different tests which were randomly distributed to students and collected at the end of the class period. The idea was if they cheated they would likely get the wrong answer. Yeah, big help that.

And it must be noted that this was back in 1991.

One of the students I caught cheating was a female and when her "mommy" found out that the girl had received a failing grade (for cheating), mommy came down from upstate NY in order to convince me not to give her daughter a failing grade. On top of that, the girl was reportedly going to go into the army when she graduated, AND SHE WAS PREGNANT.

I did not change the girl's grade. Mommy got all teary eyed and told me that it was my Christian "duty" to forgive the girl. I told her that as a Christian I did forgive her, but was not going to change her grade!

Still do not understand the concept that cheating was OK, and if caught it was a Christian's duty to let it slide.

The school requested IBM to leave me there for another year, which unfortunately, did not come to pass. There were a LOT of student tears when I left there. We were stopped on our way out of the campus by a group of students, in tears, wanting to know why I was leaving. And asked me, "who is going to care about us when you leave?"

Long response, but my purpose is to show that this crap of just letting black students slide through school because the are black is a non-starter. I proved, in the classroom, that black students could do the work, learn the material, cobble an intelligent sentence/paper together if only the TEACHERS demanded it, instead of making bullshit excuses.

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Originally posted by Crom:
A good question for SJWs:

How many years would we need continue preferential treatment and programs benefitting certain minorities, with no significant change in the measurable statistics, before we just admitted there was a real difference?
100 ? 150? 200?
I think we would all agree to do whatever it takes to "solve" the "racism accusations problem" if we just knew what the end date would be.

Not Years, Infinity.. Just tune in Live PD some evening...

I cannot remember if it was last year or 2016, that Henrico County, VA schools put out something regarding suspensions rates and racial disparity.

It pissed me off because I was paying taxes for the last 15 years in Henrico County and this ol' poor as me crap got old, and lets blame every one else because certain kids cannot behave themselves and/or/are morons.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by MG34_Dan:

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
Yeah, I’ve been watching this considering my kids are in high school here.
Anyone want to guess “who” causes the majority of the classroom disruptions?
Statistics can be funny that way...
#never_let_the_truth_get_in_the_way_of_a_good_story

Statistics perpetuate white privilege!

Cuz math is racist, yo!

Both math and science are racist. It is white men's fault that not everyone gets A's in those classes.

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:....Long response, but my purpose is to show that this crap of just letting black students slide through school because the are black is a non-starter. I proved, in the classroom, that black students could do the work, learn the material, cobble an intelligent sentence/paper together if only the TEACHERS demanded it, instead of making bullshit excuses.

Problem is, many minorities have come to expect/demand preferential treatment, the soft bias of low expectations. And when they graduate without capable skills, it is due to prejudice, not due to lack of effort.

Isn't this what lead to the Parkland school shooting? Stop prosecuting crimes and punishing offenders.

I am having a hard time figuring this world out.