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Rugged Cross, I appreciate you trying to see the other side of this awful mess. You are a better person than me.

I can tell you that I volunteer and help support (in my small way) Canine Companions for Independence (CCI) this organization trains assistance dogs for people who need them.

Dogs retire all the time, some for health reasons others for ability reasons. Should the owner be unable to continue to care for their former assistance dog (sometimes it happens) there is a WAITING LIST of people who will take a retired assistance dog. (I know because I am on that list and got a really great friend that way)

I've been on that list for 8 years and only been offered a chance TWICE. (Oh yeah I took both. I still have one.)

So add me to the judgmental list. That guy has some karma headed his way.


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He gets no "benefit of the doubt" from me.

Guy is a cop.

Cops are trained to think and act under duress and "look at and consider everything, and leave nothing to be guessed" as a rule, as are many people in like similar professions, i.e. military, EMS, Fire, pilots.... You get the drift. One does not have to be an expert in a given profession to reason such generalized concepts.

And this was far from such a situation and he had time enough to think and try solutions that would help ensure a good re-homing.

As stated by others, he likely had to go through his department procedures/policies to take ownership of the dog. Contact that department.

He could have contacted rescue groups. It's as easy as finding porn.

Watch this <<<-----

I am willing bet he did not put any effort into finding a home or help.




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guy's a douchenozzle.
 
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That guy is less than cat shit to me. May he reap what has been sown.
 
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Just to reinterate- Fuck That Guy.

There were many options through his agency and supervision, as well as community options.

He chose to dump the dog at a shelter.

This is the one time I ll throw out the BTDT card. I handled a dog for 8 years and was around a lot of handlers. This guy is the lowest of low, and I do not know a single handler that would give him the time of day.




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"The Jackson Police Department respects and holds our canines with high regard just as we do any other officer within our department," a police spokesman said, according to the paper. "They are family, and we do not feel they deserve anything less than a loving home in retirement."


IF the department truly values their canine officers the same as any other officer, then this cop should be fired, not demoted.
 
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It is really a low bastard who would do this. We did a similar adoption back in 2002, a police K-9 named Major who had been dumped at a shelter by his handler in FL (we lived in MD at the time). The rescue group arranging the adoption flew Major into BWI, in the cabin wearing his service vest. This was before the widespread practice of flying with "service" or "comfort" animals. Major got a standing ovation from his fellow passengers when deplaning. Major lived six months more of sheer happiness in a wonderful dog environment, with our 3 other dogs. The only issue was keeping Major separated from my wife's K-9 partner, who was retired and also lived at home. At six months, he suffered a stroke and passed, but he made many friends during that time and enjoyed his final months.
 
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Yeah, fuck that guy. It's highly suspicious that you have no problem keeping the dog for so long, then suddenly can't two months after the agency isn't footing the bills for it. If I had to guess, there was probably a salary incentive when the dog was active.
 
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lotta depts with K-9s give one tour a week to dog training. That alone is a incentive for some guy. I still say he'd a douchenozzle.
 
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I keep coming back to this thread hoping to read that something really unfortunate has happened to Carl Ellis...


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I do honestly hope they have secretly opened up an IA investigation into this turd. If he pulled this shady stunt and got caught, who knows what what he has gotten away with during his career.

No longer trustworthy and has displayed bad character and decision making skills.

Dump him.


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I'd fire that fucking shithead, no collecting $200 as you pass go, no retirement paychek. Who knows what levels of corruption that asshole committed with zero character like that. Zero plus zero equals zero and with no credit to begin equals corruption. I'd bet money he's some level of criminal in uniform. Or maybe he's just stupid. Either way he should NOT be in any police dept. That's so disgusting I can't dwell on it any longer.




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Pretty damn low.





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Oh, for Christ’s Sake.

There are K-9 and Labrador rescue groups. Our Corgi rescue has a long list of foster parents and people that want to adopt. There are relay teams to move a dog cross county, funding to provide medical care and to transport the dogs. Every shelter in our area knows to call when a corgi comes in.

As the dog’s trainer rescued him from the shelter, I’m pretty sure that there was a rescue system set up.

All the dirtbag had to do was contact the training facility. Otherwise, a very short search found these rescue groups:

K-9
http://www.northwesthillsk9rescue.org/index.html
https://missionk9rescue.org/wo...-dog-adoption-forms/
http://www.k-9lifesavers.org/
https://www.petfinder.com/memb...cue-and-rehab-wa497/

Labs
http://lab.rescueme.org/Mississippi
http://www.8pawsup.com/labrescues/
http://www.southernskiesrescue.org/



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Just wow.

What a piece of shit.
 
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While I agree with you guys in principle. But what if the guy just could not keep the dog. At least he did the right thing. He could of done much worse.
Maybe none of his fellow cops would take him. I do not know. But maybe there is a reason. And you guys know how much I love dog's.


What changed for him?

As a handler the dog lives with you. You feed the dog, train the dog (even on off days), care for the dog, groom the dog, and LIVE WITH the dog the whole time.

(I can't say everywhere, but here, and MOST other places, handlers are given 7 hour shifts as opposed to 8, yet paid for 8. This is to make up for the time spent while "off duty" caring for the dog. On the approved days off they also get 1 hour of overtime EACH day for care of the dog.) ETA: I should have said at nearly every agency handlers are somehow COMPENSATED for off duty time spent caring for their K9 partner.

He had been caring for the dog for 9 years. What changed?

SECOND.... Seeing as his punishment was to be "demoted" from K-9 to patrol, and the fact that his first dog was "retired" and sent to a shelter, I am inferring that he was still in K-9, and as such, HAS ANOTHER DOG!!!!

So is he unable to care for two dogs, one retired and one active? Is he too lazy? Or now that he doesn't get the overtime and subsidy for food/care is he too cheap?

While I agree we don't know everything about this one yet, I'm gonna say that is MUCH, MUCH more likely that this guy is just a piece of shit than an actual explainable reason.

And... I'll add, IF I AM RIGHT... This assclown is an embarrassment to the badge and needs to be not just demoted, but booted out of the profession immediately and blackballed nationwide until all he can do is guard rubber dogshit warehouses in Hong Kong.





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There's something about the hood that can make people pretty damn callous, to the point where they're not really human any longer when it comes to basic ethics and compassion. I imagine most police officers who deal with people like that would offer better insight. I'd bet you money that officer grew up in it. Whether or not that's the cause he should never have been hired in the first place. Not knowing the whole story or his background I may be completely wrong.




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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
While I agree with you guys in principle. But what if the guy just could not keep the dog. At least he did the right thing. He could of done much worse.
Maybe none of his fellow cops would take him. I do not know. But maybe there is a reason. And you guys know how much I love dog's.


What changed for him?

As a handler the dog lives with you. You feed the dog, train the dog (even on off days), care for the dog, groom the dog, and LIVE WITH the dog the whole time.

(I can't say everywhere, but here, and MOST other places, handlers are given 7 hour shifts as opposed to 8, yet paid for 8. This is to make up for the time spent while "off duty" caring for the dog. On the approved days off they also get 1 hour of overtime EACH day for care of the dog.) ETA: I should have said at nearly every agency handlers are somehow COMPENSATED for off duty time spent caring for their K9 partner.

He had been caring for the dog for 9 years. What changed?

SECOND.... Seeing as his punishment was to be "demoted" from K-9 to patrol, and the fact that his first dog was "retired" and sent to a shelter, I am inferring that he was still in K-9, and as such, HAS ANOTHER DOG!!!!

So is he unable to care for two dogs, one retired and one active? Is he too lazy? Or now that he doesn't get the overtime and subsidy for food/care is he too cheap?

While I agree we don't know everything about this one yet, I'm gonna say that is MUCH, MUCH more likely that this guy is just a piece of shit than an actual explainable reason.

And... I'll add, IF I AM RIGHT... This assclown is an embarrassment to the badge and needs to be not just demoted, but booted out of the profession immediately and blackballed nationwide until all he can do is guard rubber dogshit warehouses in Hong Kong.


Not knowing the full story, it is difficult to make a judgement. A few years ago, a female K9 officer in Florida got in all kinds of trouble because she left her dog in her patrol care (with engine and AC on) and there was an AC failure and a notification system failure (some K9 cars have a notification that the car is overheating/AC off) resulting in the dog dying in the car while parked at the Police Department. She was basically crucified through the media and initially by her Chief......until it came out that a Captain ORDERED her to never bring the dog into the station while he was there (all apparently unbeknownst to the Chief) AND he happened to be the same guy who ordered a known faulty vehicle notification system. There was a a detailed full up story to the incident in one of the Police K9 magazines I was getting at the time.

Now I can take some educated guesses based on my experience; this will shock some of you but there are lazy ass politically connected officers who decide they want to be a K9 officer not out of love for the job or working with a dog but to get out of normal everyday patrol work. They are easy to tell: their dog's training goes down hill, the documented training by the handler (part of the everyday stuff, working the dog in obedience, having an officer toss an object into a field for an in service track/find training) is either missing or falsified, never answer their phones when off for call outs, and complain that they only get an hour a day for compensation when they barely spend 10 minutes taking care of the dog (that is why well ran K9 programs will have the K9 supervisor do kennel inspections at the officers' homes to verify cleanliness and fresh water). There is a very high probability that this officer is in fact a douchebag assclown of the highest order and his only claim to fame is he is related to someone or knows someone.
 
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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
While I agree with you guys in principle. But what if the guy just could not keep the dog. At least he did the right thing. He could of done much worse.
Maybe none of his fellow cops would take him. I do not know. But maybe there is a reason. And you guys know how much I love dog's.


What changed for him?

As a handler the dog lives with you. You feed the dog, train the dog (even on off days), care for the dog, groom the dog, and LIVE WITH the dog the whole time.

(I can't say everywhere, but here, and MOST other places, handlers are given 7 hour shifts as opposed to 8, yet paid for 8. This is to make up for the time spent while "off duty" caring for the dog. On the approved days off they also get 1 hour of overtime EACH day for care of the dog.) ETA: I should have said at nearly every agency handlers are somehow COMPENSATED for off duty time spent caring for their K9 partner.

He had been caring for the dog for 9 years. What changed?

SECOND.... Seeing as his punishment was to be "demoted" from K-9 to patrol, and the fact that his first dog was "retired" and sent to a shelter, I am inferring that he was still in K-9, and as such, HAS ANOTHER DOG!!!!

So is he unable to care for two dogs, one retired and one active? Is he too lazy? Or now that he doesn't get the overtime and subsidy for food/care is he too cheap?

While I agree we don't know everything about this one yet, I'm gonna say that is MUCH, MUCH more likely that this guy is just a piece of shit than an actual explainable reason.

And... I'll add, IF I AM RIGHT... This assclown is an embarrassment to the badge and needs to be not just demoted, but booted out of the profession immediately and blackballed nationwide until all he can do is guard rubber dogshit warehouses in Hong Kong.


Not knowing the full story, it is difficult to make a judgement. A few years ago, a female K9 officer in Florida got in all kinds of trouble because she left her dog in her patrol care (with engine and AC on) and there was an AC failure and a notification system failure (some K9 cars have a notification that the car is overheating/AC off) resulting in the dog dying in the car while parked at the Police Department. She was basically crucified through the media and initially by her Chief......until it came out that a Captain ORDERED her to never bring the dog into the station while he was there (all apparently unbeknownst to the Chief) AND he happened to be the same guy who ordered a known faulty vehicle notification system. There was a a detailed full up story to the incident in one of the Police K9 magazines I was getting at the time.

Now I can take some educated guesses based on my experience; this will shock some of you but there are lazy ass politically connected officers who decide they want to be a K9 officer not out of love for the job or working with a dog but to get out of normal everyday patrol work. They are easy to tell: their dog's training goes down hill, the documented training by the handler (part of the everyday stuff, working the dog in obedience, having an officer toss an object into a field for an in service track/find training) is either missing or falsified, never answer their phones when off for call outs, and complain that they only get an hour a day for compensation when they barely spend 10 minutes taking care of the dog (that is why well ran K9 programs will have the K9 supervisor do kennel inspections at the officers' homes to verify cleanliness and fresh water). There is a very high probability that this officer is in fact a douchebag assclown of the highest order and his only claim to fame is he is related to someone or knows someone.

I was just thinking that there is something wrong with their K9 officer selection process...


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