March 01, 2019, 11:04 AM
2000Z-71Call your Senators to stop H.R. 8
And now everyone's favorite freshman congresswoman from New York jumps into the fray. Proof this really isn't about improving safety at all. The dems object to ICE being notified if an illegal attempts to purchase a firearm.
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...gQWed8pUnU5RlF5WyttwOcasio-Cortez warns of 'list' for moderate Dems who vote with Republicans: report
By Bradford Betz | Fox News
Ocasio-Cortez is making a ‘list’ after moderate Dems side with Republicans
Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warned of having a ‘list’ for moderate Democrats who voted with the Republicans.
After more than two dozen moderate Democrats broke from their party's progressive wing and sided with Republicans on a legislative amendment Wednesday, New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reportedly sounded the alarm in a closed-door meeting Thursday and said those Democrats were "putting themselves on a list."
The legislation that prompted the infighting was a bill that would expand federal background checks for gun purchases, the Washington Post reported. But a key provision requiring U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to be notified if illegal immigrants attempt to purchase guns saw 26 moderate Democrats side with Republicans.
According to the Post, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi scolded her wayward center-leaning colleagues, telling them: "We are either a team or we’re not, and we have to make that decision.”
But Ocasio-Cortez reportedly took it a step further. She said she would help progressive activists unseat those moderates in their districts in the 2020 elections, the report said. Her spokesman Corbin Trent told the paper that she made the "list" comment during the meeting.
“She said that when activists ask her why she had to vote for a gun safety bill that also further empowers an agency that forcibly injects kids with psychotropic drugs, they’re going to want a list of names and she’s going to give it to them,” Trent said, referring to ICE.
Ocasio-Cortez has vehemently denounced ICE since bursting onto the political stage -- but has also raised concerns among fellow Democrats that she's picking fights with her own party.
“I’m sure Ms. Cortez means well, but there’s almost an outstanding rule: Don’t attack your own people,” Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., told Politico earlier this year. “We just don’t need sniping in our Democratic Caucus.”
Her star status and outsize influence bringing Democrats on board with controversial policies like the Green New Deal have rankled some long-time members. But the freshman congresswoman appears unfazed by the pushback, often hitting back at her critics on Twitter.
In response to criticism earlier this year from former Sen. Joe Lieberman, Ocasio-Cortez tweeted a snarky: “New party, who dis?”
The gun bill on the floor earlier this week would expand the scope of background checks and require nearly all gun buyers to undergo one – including if they bought at a gun show, online or in a private transaction.
March 01, 2019, 11:24 AM
comet24quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
You'd think that they'd research instances where gun databases have already been tried. In Canada, and MA, and I'd include the fired case database in Maryland I believe it was?
Yes, Maryland spent millions to collect fired cases from every new gun sold. It was going to link guns to crimes until it didn't.
Apparently, criminals don't shop at the local gun store. IIRC the only match they ever got with the system was from a crime was one they already knew who committed it. They finally did away with the system.
March 01, 2019, 05:03 PM
flashguyquote:
Originally posted by comet24:
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
You'd think that they'd research instances where gun databases have already been tried. In Canada, and MA, and I'd include the fired case database in Maryland I believe it was?
Yes, Maryland spent millions to collect fired cases from every new gun sold. It was going to link guns to crimes until it didn't.
Apparently, criminals don't shop at the local gun store. IIRC the only match they ever got with the system was from a crime was one they already knew who committed it. They finally did away with the system.
That fired case database had an even worse failing--it would have been easy for someone to just pick up some fired cases at a range and leave them at a crime scene, thereby putting the cops off track.
flashguy
March 01, 2019, 05:14 PM
RichardCI'm all for legislation that keeps guns out of the hands of Democrats and other leftists, and especially the ones who get elected to local, state, and federal office.
This includes their paid bodyguards, no guns for them either.This will make it easier when we round them up, load them on trains and send them off to summer camp.