Our house is on a well and our water is hard. The toilets that were put in by our contractor are not name brand, e.g. American Standard, Kohler. We seem to clean the toilet in our master bath all.the.time., and it still is streaked and has a ring. We have a pumice stone cleaner and while it helps, it doesn't really remove the water stains very well.

I've done a fair amount of research on more expensive toilets and I read nothing about a better quality porcelain that is more resistant to staining. All their bragging is about quietness, efficiency, choice of high and low water flush, etc.

If I spend more on a toilet, will it be more resistant to water stains and easier to keep clean?

The problem is your water not the toilet.

Three baths and three different toilet manufactures.
All mine get rings at water line.
The problem is water quality.!!
Sometimes when you flush a tinkle the replacement water is more stained than what you just flushed.
Ring at water line within a day of a good cleaning.
Whole home water filter system would alleviate this but I have lived with for five decades and besides that system is expensive

Water softener. We have one. No water spots after a shower, no rings in toilets. Toilets at work... different story.

Maybe try one of those tank additives? Blue water might stop staining, might make it less visible.

Your going to have to fix the water if you don’t want staining....no matter which toilet manufacturer you use.

Go to Amazon and get Fluidmaster Flush and Sparkle's. It introduces chlorine to the bowl without damaging the tank parts. You can thank me later

Chlorine and those blue bowl “cleaner” deals have little effect on the minerals in our hard well water. In fact, the blue stuff stains the mineral ring, making it more noticeable.

As Beancooker suggests, a water softener is probably what will help the most.

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Originally posted by Beancooker:
Water softener. We have one. No water spots after a shower, no rings in toilets. Toilets at work... different story.

This is the correct answer...

I would think that using a pumice stone would roughen the surface and make it more susceptible to staining. Cleaning should be with chemicals, not rubbing. Have you tried CLR?

flashguy

Iron Out works for me. You still need a good bit of elbow grease and major ventilation. I keep a fan running on my face the whole time.

I have hard, mineralized water and this product works. Even takes stains out of laundry.

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Originally posted by Stlhead:
The problem is your water not the toilet.

This, a better quality toilet "MAY" have better porcelain but who knows.

Cleaning it with a Pumice stone is the absolute worst thing you can do as it opens up the pores on the porcelain making it stain easier. Use a chemical cleaner such as WHINK or CLR for the rust stains etc. not elbow grease.

Thanks everyone

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Chlorine and those blue bowl “cleaner” deals have little effect on the minerals in our hard well water. In fact, the blue stuff stains the mineral ring, making it more noticeable.

Sorry to disagree, but if you have seen what I have with this product, you would change your view. Most memorable customer, rust stains were defeated by the product.

I have hard water with iron, and hydrogen sulfide which I filter out with just a whole house filter like this one using a one micron filter.

https://www.menards.com/main/p...990419872726&ipos=17

This works for the rust and smell, but still have a problem with lime, and came across the link below as an alternative to the traditional water softeners. They use a mineral called poly phosphate, and it binds up the minerals that leave deposits or corrode pipes. Haven't tried it yet, but I believe it is what some municipal water systems use to prevent issues like Flint had.

https://www.filterwaterdirect....alog/poly-phosphates

400 or 600 wet/dry sandpaper will take the stains off.

Do you have a water softener? You didn't say one way or the other. If not, you need one.

As other have said, it's not your toilet it's your water. There are all kinds of chemicals that will remove those stains. Check with your local Lowe's or Home depot.

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Originally posted by wreckdiver:

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Chlorine and those blue bowl “cleaner” deals have little effect on the minerals in our hard well water. In fact, the blue stuff stains the mineral ring, making it more noticeable.

Sorry to disagree, but if you have seen what I have with this product, you would change your view. Most memorable customer, rust stains were defeated by the product.

Maybe it depends on the type of mineral that is causing the buildup.

You didn’t say if septic or sewer. Chemicals with a septic aren’t good.

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Originally posted by Sigfest:
You didn’t say if septic or sewer. Chemicals with a septic aren’t good.

^^^ I was thinking the same thing also I get the sanding but would the sanding make the ring worse the next time around.