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You didn’t say if septic or sewer. Chemicals with a septic aren’t good.


^^^ I was thinking the same thing also I get the sanding but would the sanding make the ring worse the next time around.

Septic. A water softener is undoubtedly the best solution, wish we had the discussion with our contractor when the house was built. I think that the systems available today are designed to be highly efficient and use the minimum amount of salt. That would be important because I know it’s true that discharging large amounts of salt through the septic system would be bad. I actually did some research on the chelation type of water softener, but it seems there isn’t universal love for that system. IF we were to put a softener in, it would have to bypass, at least the refrigerator—our drinking water is very, very good and I wouldn’t want to mess with that.

I was wrong yesterday when I said the pumice stone (which I am almost certain I learned about in this forum) was only partially effective. My wife scrubbed the master bath toilet with the stone and it cleaned up the water stains pretty well. I guess I’m not as good at it. I don’t notice that the porcelain is being harmed by using the stone.


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You didn’t say if septic or sewer. Chemicals with a septic aren’t good.


^^^ I was thinking the same thing also I get the sanding but would the sanding make the ring worse the next time around.

Septic. A water softener is undoubtedly the best solution, wish we had the discussion with our contractor when the house was built. I think that the systems available today are designed to be highly efficient and use the minimum amount of salt. That would be important because I know it’s true that discharging large amounts of salt through the septic system would be bad. I actually did some research on the chelation type of water softener, but it seems there isn’t universal love for that system. IF we were to put a softener in, it would have to bypass, at least the refrigerator—our drinking water is very, very good and I wouldn’t want to mess with that.

I was wrong yesterday when I said the pumice stone (which I am almost certain I learned about in this forum) was only partially effective. My wife scrubbed the master bath toilet with the stone and it cleaned up the water stains pretty well. I guess I’m not as good at it. I don’t notice that the porcelain is being harmed by using the stone.


Pumice stone is rough and toilets have a baked on shiny layer to the porcelain, underneath that layer it is porous and rough. I would never use pumice or sand paper to clean water stains from a toilet. There are plenty of chemical treatments that do a great job,and you don't need a lot of chemical, you just need to find which one works best for your water. If it's rust staining, WHINK found in the grocery laundry stain removing section does an incredible job.
 
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Pumice stone is rough and toilets have a baked on shiny layer to the porcelain, underneath that layer it is porous and rough. I would never use pumice or sand paper to clean water stains from a toilet. There are plenty of chemical treatments that do a great job,and you don't need a lot of chemical, you just need to find which one works best for your water. If it's rust staining, WHINK found in the grocery laundry stain removing section does an incredible job.

It’s not a rusty stain, our water is not hard from iron deposits, but from calcium carbonate.


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Pumice stone is rough and toilets have a baked on shiny layer to the porcelain, underneath that layer it is porous and rough. I would never use pumice or sand paper to clean water stains from a toilet. There are plenty of chemical treatments that do a great job,and you don't need a lot of chemical, you just need to find which one works best for your water. If it's rust staining, WHINK found in the grocery laundry stain removing section does an incredible job.

It’s not a rusty stain, our water is not hard from iron deposits, but from calcium carbonate.


CLR is your friend. put on toilet, and lightly brush on, let sit 10 minutes and lightly brush again with a brush.
 
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I've done a fair amount of research on more expensive toilets and I read nothing about a better quality porcelain that is more resistant to staining. All their bragging is about quietness, efficiency, choice of high and low water flush, etc.



Toto does. I have Carlyle II’s with it and it works well. Great toilets. Look for models with “Sana Gloss” or CeFIONtect.(same thing - they changed the name)
 
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I'd bet the best toilets have the least porous ceramic coatings. Word is, toilet surfaces are becoming almost anti-microbial, as there are less micron-sized craters for germs to hide.

 
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Pumice stone is rough and toilets have a baked on shiny layer to the porcelain, underneath that layer it is porous and rough. I would never use pumice or sand paper to clean water stains from a toilet. There are plenty of chemical treatments that do a great job,and you don't need a lot of chemical, you just need to find which one works best for your water. If it's rust staining, WHINK found in the grocery laundry stain removing section does an incredible job.

It’s not a rusty stain, our water is not hard from iron deposits, but from calcium carbonate.


It sounds like the this might help.

"Poly Phosphate is used in a broad range of water treatment applications for its ability to sequester the iron and calcium in the water and inhibits its ability to cause build-up on pipes and surfaces."

https://www.filterwaterdirect....sphate-cartridge-kit


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