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Metabo grinders really are better

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March 23, 2023, 02:08 PM
pbslinger
Metabo grinders really are better
I have a Craftsman and Makita 4 1/2" angle grinders, and had a 7" Craftsman at one time. I have long heard how much better Metabo grinders are. I got a 6" quick change yesterday and now I get the difference. Where most of the grinders I have used seem to be no more sophisticated than a motor driving a disc, (I suspect higher end models of other brands have some of these features) there appears to be much more with the Metabo. I think everyone else who makes angle grinders allows that any user or industry that relys on grinders on a daily basis, knows Metabo is in a market by themselves, and they'll just stick to the hobby market.

There are several safety features and features that increase usability and decrease fatigue. First is a breakaway clutch that decouples the motor from the disc if the disc binds and may prevent kickback. It'll freewheel and may not break the disc. The guard is very easy to rotate for conditions by pressing a lever instead of requiring a screwdriver. The smoothness and power increases cutting speed and reduces fatigue. There is an electronic control built in that maintains RPM and adjusts to load. The quick change disc attachment means you are no longer tied to a specialized wrench.

This company has made a great commitment to refining, improving, and making angle grinders better and safer, and they have succeeded.

A saftety tip I had never heard is to run a installed disc in a barrel for one minute to test its integrity before using it.
March 23, 2023, 02:18 PM
OKCGene
I have a few Hitachi tools including a Hitachi job site table saw.

Hitachi is now Metabo.
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March 23, 2023, 02:31 PM
HK Ag
From Wikipedia I see that Metabo is/was a German company with manufacturing in Nurtingen and Shanghai. I wonder where the products sold to the US market are sourced from?

Looks like Hitachi acquired them in 2016 and sold that part of Hitachi in 2017 to HK Holdings.
March 23, 2023, 02:33 PM
pbslinger
quote:
Originally posted by HK Ag:
From Wikipedia I see that Metabo is/was a German company with manufacturing in Nurtingen and Shanghai. I wonder where the products sold to the US market are sourced from?

Looks like Hitachi acquired them in 2016 and sold that part of Hitachi in 2017 to HK Holdings.


I think most of the corded grinders are made in Germany.
March 23, 2023, 02:40 PM
OttoSig
When I worked heavy construction the Metabo grinders lasted longest for us, given our use everything wore out.

This was only in the 4”, 7” we used different brands, mostly Makita or Milwaukee.

Metabo was the catch all name for grinders we used them so much, much like “grab the lull” for any forklift.





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March 23, 2023, 03:36 PM
goose5
I never did like the Metabo 4 1/2 grinder. It was to fat in the back for my comfort. Never thought I really had a good grip on it. My last three at work have been Bosch. If you use these things as much has I do the cord shorts out. Bosch is the easiest by far to remove the cord. Cut out the damaged part and reattach.


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March 23, 2023, 03:54 PM
pbslinger
quote:
Originally posted by goose5:
I never did like the Metabo 4 1/2 grinder. It was to fat in the back for my comfort. Never thought I really had a good grip on it. My last three at work have been Bosch. If you use these things as much has I do the cord shorts out. Bosch is the easiest by far to remove the cord. Cut out the damaged part and reattach.


I see what you mean about the fat grip, I have a damaged thumb joint and even though I have pretty big hands, I don't like to grip things over a few inches in diameter. They make some models with a thinner grip extension, I'd probably like that better.
March 23, 2023, 04:01 PM
P250UA5
I've got a Metabo, bought it to work on the, now gone, Lotus project.
Have only used it once to trim excess dryer vent & it worked great.




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March 23, 2023, 04:35 PM
snwghst
Metabo makes a nice tool

I had one of the bladed paint grinder/strippers. Made stripping 6-8 coats to bare wood a breeze


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March 23, 2023, 04:41 PM
pbslinger
quote:
Originally posted by snwghst:
Metabo makes a nice tool

I had one of the bladed paint grinder/strippers. Made stripping 6-8 coats to bare wood a breeze


A little research indicates they don't every tool nailed, but I think they do corded grinders.
March 23, 2023, 05:50 PM
Chris42
Most of my handheld power tools are Milwaukee. They make some very good equipment.
That said, my disc grinder died recently and I did some comparison shopping. I bought a Metabo 5” grinder and it is a better machine. The soft start is nice as is the speed regulation with changing loads. Powerful as well. A quality tool all around.
March 23, 2023, 05:57 PM
Black92LX
quote:
Originally posted by OKCGene:
I have a few Hitachi tools including a Hitachi job site table saw.

Hitachi is now Metabo.
.


Yes and No.

Metabo HPT are the old Hitachis
https://www.metabo-hpt.com/

Metabo is still a completely different line.
https://www.metabo.com/us/enus/
Most of these if not all still come from Germany. Been a few years since I looked much into it but all the corded grinders were of German origin.

He is referring to these Metabos and not the HPTs. There is still very much a quality difference.

I worked quite a few years in the family owned metal fabrication shop. Metabo grinders were the only ones allowed in the shop.
I never was a really good welder so I had lots of time with the Metabos.


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March 23, 2023, 06:42 PM
pbslinger
quote:
I never was a really good welder so I had lots of time with the Metabos.


When I was a professional welder, I was amazed at how little grinding time the best welders spent. It was embarrassing.

As Ali said about Marciano, I couldn't carry their jock strap.
March 23, 2023, 07:35 PM
Black92LX
quote:
Originally posted by pbslinger:
quote:
I never was a really good welder so I had lots of time with the Metabos.


When I was a professional welder, I was amazed at how little grinding time the best welders spent. It was embarrassing.

As Ali said about Marciano, I couldn't carry their jock strap.


Yup, we had a couple fellas that barely used anything more than a slag brush and hammer.


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March 24, 2023, 05:35 AM
pbslinger
There's a Canadian youtuber AvE that does BOLTR (Bored of Lame Tool Reviews) tool teardowns. He appears to have engineering, maybe manufacturing and materials experience. His sense of humor is awesome. Here is his review of a Metabo grinder from 6 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTqv4mfKYEE

It appears not all Metabo grinders have an anti kickback clutch. In their line there are about 10 6" grinders, and the features and model designations are not readily apparent. Different motor power levels, handle configurations, switch types, quick disc attachment. I'll assume most buyers don't know and understand the model lineup and few end up with the model they really want.
March 24, 2023, 08:01 AM
Keystoner
I work with iron workers. It's not called a grinder. It's called a Metabo and if they grind with it, then they're metaboing.



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March 24, 2023, 08:17 AM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
quote:
Originally posted by OKCGene:
I have a few Hitachi tools including a Hitachi job site table saw.

Hitachi is now Metabo.
.
Yes and No.

Metabo HTP are the old Hitachis
That would be "HPT," not "HTP." Metabo Hitachi Power Tools.

Metabo didn't buy all of Hitachi, just their power tool line.

Last time I bought a Metabo HPT tool (I think it was my framing nailer?) it was indistinguishable from a pre-Metabo Hitachi other than the badge.

Hitachi/Metabo HPT nailers are very good nailers, btw. I'm also more than pleased with my Hitachi drill/impact set. I put Hitachi/Metabo HPT right up there with Milwaukee, Makita, etc.



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March 24, 2023, 08:39 AM
Beancooker
I’ll have to try out the feel of the Metabo when I go to Lowe’s. I have a Milwaukee and I like it, but the switch is a complete POS. It’s a rocker slide switch, which if you barely touch the switch while it’s running, it shuts off. I absolutely hate this thing, solely because of the switch.

With any luck, the Metabo will fit my hand and will have a simple slide switch filled with danger.



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March 24, 2023, 09:31 AM
pbslinger
quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
I’ll have to try out the feel of the Metabo when I go to Lowe’s. I have a Milwaukee and I like it, but the switch is a complete POS. It’s a rocker slide switch, which if you barely touch the switch while it’s running, it shuts off. I absolutely hate this thing, solely because of the switch.

With any luck, the Metabo will fit my hand and will have a simple slide switch filled with danger.


I've seen three types of switches on Metabo grinders, there may be more. Thumb that rocks to lock, trigger on the rat tail models, and on models with handles about the same diameter as the motor, paddle switches with a dead man realease.

Able to left on is handy but scary. The Metabo I just got has a paddle switch with a release or dead man. I think it is good balance between usability and safety. Holding it on is just part of gripping the tool, but should you lose control of it, it should stop. That seems important because of how powerful this grinder is for its size.
March 24, 2023, 09:33 AM
Black92LX
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
quote:
Originally posted by OKCGene:
I have a few Hitachi tools including a Hitachi job site table saw.

Hitachi is now Metabo.
.
Yes and No.

Metabo HTP are the old Hitachis
That would be "HPT," not "HTP." Metabo Hitachi Power Tools.


You are correct believe auto correct may have gotten me.

quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
I’ll have to try out the feel of the Metabo when I go to Lowe’s. I have a Milwaukee and I like it, but the switch is a complete POS. It’s a rocker slide switch, which if you barely touch the switch while it’s running, it shuts off. I absolutely hate this thing, solely because of the switch.

With any luck, the Metabo will fit my hand and will have a simple slide switch filled with danger.


If you are referring to grinders you won’t find the good Metabos there at least the do not have them here or online, just the HPT which is pretty much identical to the old Hitachi line of tools.

You’ll likely have to find a commercial shop near your for the true Metabos


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If we got each other, and that's all we have.
I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand.
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