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Baroque Bloke
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My take: the cat’s already out of the bag. Certainly China, Russia, Iran, etc will ignore this.

“Elon Musk and 1,000 other technology leaders including Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak are calling for a pause on the 'dangerous race' to develop AI, which they fear poses a 'profound risk to society and humanity' and could have 'catastrophic' effects.

In an open letter on The Future of Life Institute, Musk and the others argued that humankind doesn't yet know the full scope of the risk involved in advancing the technology.

They are asking all AI labs to stop developing the technology for at least six months while more risk assessment is done. If any labs refuse, they want governments to 'step in'.  …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/11914149



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Yes, sort of like asking countries to not have nukes after they already have them.
A sort of gentleman's agreement among people that aren't real gentlemen.


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My guess is that there's a lab somewhere where the AI has already begun to present dangerous character traits.





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Gain of function...for computers.

What could possibly go wrong?


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What is Skynet... Wink


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Probably a good idea, but the cynic in me says Apple and the other companies saying this are saying it because their AI development is behind.
 
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The T-1000 model just hit the drawing boards? Where are the Kyle Reeses of the world?
 
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Perhaps incidents like these are becoming more troubling. And this is just shy of a year ago. Was it really a unique “language”? Subtext to compartmentalize information?

https://nypost.com/2022/06/03/...creepy-language/amp/

Artificial intelligence spotted inventing its own creepy language

An artificial intelligence program has developed its own language and no one can understand it.

OpenAI is an artificial intelligence systems developer – their programs are fantastic examples of super-computing but there are quirks.

DALLE-E2 is OpenAI‘s latest AI system – it can generate realistic or artistic images from user-entered text descriptions.

DALLE-E2 represents a milestone in machine learning – OpenAI’s site says the program “learned the relationship between images and the text used to describe them.”

A DALLE-E2 demonstration includes interactive keywords for visiting users to play with and generate images – toggling different keywords will result in different images, styles, and subjects.

But the system has one strange behavior – it’s writing its own language of random arrangements of letters, and researchers don’t know why.

Giannis Daras, a computer science Ph.D. student at the University of Texas, published a Twitter thread detailing DALLE-E2’s unexplained new language.

Daras told DALLE-E2 to create an image of “farmers talking about vegetables” and the program did so, but the farmers’ speech read “vicootes” – some unknown AI word.

Daras fed “vicootes” back into the DALLE-E2 system and got back pictures of vegetables.

“We then feed the words: ‘Apoploe vesrreaitars’ and we get birds.” Daras wrote on Twitter.

“It seems that the farmers are talking about birds, messing with their vegetables!”

Daras and a co-author have written a paper on DALLE-E2’s “hidden vocabulary”.

They acknowledge that telling DALLE-E2 to generate images of words – the command “an image of the word airplane” is Daras’ example – normally results in DALLE-E2 spitting out “gibberish text”.

When plugged back into DALLE-E2, that gibberish text will result in images of airplanes – which says something about the way DALLE-E2 talks to and thinks of itself.

Some AI researchers argued that DALLE-E2’s gibberish text is “random noise“.

Hopefully, we don’t come to find the DALLE-E2’s second language was a security flaw that needed patching after it’s too late.




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The world is about to change a lot and very quickly. There will be very little need for accountants, coders, and lawyers. We are a little away from AGI. I feel bad for anyone that took the advice and learned to code. Customer service, order takers, receptionists, and all sorts of other jobs will be gone.



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The T-1000 model just hit the drawing boards? Where are the Kyle Reeses of the world?


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People laughed when I started warning about these robots.

Take this AI stuff and combine it with these robots.

I shouldn't be so surprised that some people are just now realizing what we're facing.


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People laughed when I started warning about these robots.

Take this AI stuff and combine it with these robots.

I shouldn't be so surprised that some people are just now realizing what we're facing.


I did not laugh. Not one bit.

This is the shit that keeps me up at night.


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Skynet became self aware on August 29 in the original timeline. Might be it just took longer than expected….
 
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Ever seen the 1970 movie Colossus: The Forbin Project? It scared the crap out of me as a 13 year old.

I’ve not seen it since then, maybe I can view it again.

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there's no reason to panic, the 3 laws will keep us safe...
 
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Lawyers will protect their own. Paralegals will be in trouble.

I suppose the bread and butter work might get more rare - though using an AI to draft a will/basic contract is probably going to be as bad of an idea as using a form off the internet.

(Works 90% of the time, goes terribly wrong about 2% of the time, etc.)

Frankly, it’s the only hope for the incipient population collapse, but I’m not sure how people stay sane.

The “imaginary friends” have already replaced meaningful social connection for most folks.

If their basic commercial interactions become fully automated, I will rejoice in the efficiency increase, but I’m worried about how far off the rails they will go.
 
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So the geniuses finally figured out it might not be the greatest idea.
 
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What are you trying to do, Dave?




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Please don’t let AI become aware of the concept of genders. Last thing we need are lunatic gender confused robots.




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