Sitting in the showroom at my local Toyota stealership this morning is a very fun looking vehicle.

The graphics and colors scream 1980’s Toyota and I love it. I said to myself “awww no way!” When I saw it.







It’s not inexpensive. For the money I think the TRD Offroad 4Runner in its “unique” color offerings would be the way I went if I got one but I am digging the heritage inspired graphics on this 4Runner. $50k!! Nostalgia comes with a cost.

Luckily, it'll still be worth most of that 5 years down the road.
Looking at used 4Runners they hold their value really well.

Personally, I like the stripe on the grille, but not so much on the sides. And definitely not in black.

Considering a T4R to replace my Malibu, probably a used Limited, unless I can convince my mom to sell me her '21 Explorer Platinum at a steal.
There's a Canadian YT channel that did a TRD Limited & swapped some of the TRD OffRoad/Pro parts onto a Limited to get the best of both worlds (and supercharged it).

Gets the exact same gas mileage as my 2011 4Runner work truck with 246k miles on it.

That's not a 1980's price...

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Originally posted by VictimNoMore:
Gets the exact same gas mileage as my 2011 4Runner work truck with 246k miles on it.

Probably the same interior, too.

It's pretty trash how they refuse to update their vehicles (for the most part).

I've been looking at mid-size trucks and crossed the Tacoma off the list. It still has a 6 speed auto and drum brakes in the rear.

Thank you for posting the pics, stickman! I had seen pics of it in white a month or so ago... the black looks a lot better.

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Originally posted by Edmond:

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Originally posted by VictimNoMore:
Gets the exact same gas mileage as my 2011 4Runner work truck with 246k miles on it.

Probably the same interior, too.

It's pretty trash how they refuse to update their vehicles (for the most part).

I've been looking at mid-size trucks and crossed the Tacoma off the list. It still has a 6 speed auto and drum brakes in the rear.

I'm betting the 4Runner gets an update in 24 or 25. Still makes it a >10 year run.
The Tundra was the same, it ran from 2008 to 22 with minimal changes.
Sequoia just got updated too, so the T4R should be next, then probably a Tacoma refresh.

The 4Runner is still using a 5AT, not even the 6AT the Taco has.

I think Toyota sells a lot based on "I drove my Toyota to 250,000 miles..."

That's great but how many people really keep their vehicles for that long? And if you off-road it, I'm not sure you can get 250k miles out of it without significant repairs.

Or people rant about resale value. You buying it to resell or to drive?

5AT is a fucking embarrassment in the market today.

I think it's only been about 2 years since they went away from the 4AT in the Corolla. That's 1980s technology there.

Lots of T4r sales due to the fact it’s had few changes. It’s pretty well proven package aside from the nanny warning system added recently. The lower trim models seem to lack a bit in sound deadening and the engine only has just enough power, that is a problem at altitude. After adding a full roof rack and AT tires I get 18 mpg.
I had a Tacoma with that newer engine and it was miserable to drive. The transmission keeps the engine lugging and it’s resistant to the downshifting it takes to simply keep up with traffic. That would be a downgrade for the T4r.
I’d expect that any new refresh will have less ground clearance and end up like a mini-van with a longer hood. Pretty much like every other SUV has become.

'80s wheels, too. The look isn't for me, but those are good trucks.

I drive my cars until they quit. I had a Toyota that I got 225K out of, and was hoping for 250K.

Love it.

Do a taco or tundra and I'll have some soul searching to do...

ghey

That is the Heritage TRD Racing stripe pattern. Been used quite a bit since it’s inception.

That one is a bit over kill though. Looks much better on white as the stripes were originally done.

Everyone seems to gripe about these aged Toyotas but they sure sell a ton of them.

My 2014 Tundra is quite dated but it’s great. I don’t want all this fancy electronic crap that does nothing but Jack up the price.

4Runner and Land Cruisers are as solid as they come, a big part of that is because they are still made in Japan. Yes, Edmond, people do keep them that long AND wheel them. Mines a 2007 with the coveted V8 (among 4Runner fans). It’s been wheeled it’s share and is pushing 220k on the odometer. All original drivetrain.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
I think Toyota sells a lot based on "I drove my Toyota to 250,000 miles..."

That's great but how many people really keep their vehicles for that long? And if you off-road it, I'm not sure you can get 250k miles out of it without significant repairs.

Or people rant about resale value. You buying it to resell or to drive?

5AT is a fucking embarrassment in the market today.

I think it's only been about 2 years since they went away from the 4AT in the Corolla. That's 1980s technology there.

You buying it to resell or to drive?
How about both!

But it sounds like you are not a big 4Runner fan...
That's OK, plenty of us are.

its an over priced SR5 with a graphics and appearance package

Ill stick with my 2020 TRD Pro T4R Army Green

Yuck and hell no.

It looked like cheap ass shit back in the 80’s and looks no better today. Who the hell wants to go back to the 80’s anyway.

FYI gonna be one extra on the market for y'all that likes it.

Just about every 4Runner today is going to be around $50k. We went several years with the plan of trading for a new one every couple of years. The most we’ve had to give in difference for trading for a new one has been $2,500.

Let's just say I won't be rushing out to trade in my 2020 TRD Venture anytime soon.

Sorry Stick... That thing looks like a damn Truman Capote/Liberace collaboration.

I see. They went the Japanese motorcycle company new model route: BNG (bold new graphics) or BOG in this case.

The colors scream 70s.

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