“They’re fucking boring as shit … Their scripts are not any fucking good … they’re superhero movies. So, why don’t [they] have better stories? … They’re mostly saved by special effects”
This the guy that made that stinker Prometheus? While I agree with him, his words aren’t exactly controversial.
November 16, 2021, 02:45 PM
darthfuster
Jr df#4 loves super hero movies. I don’t share his passion. I think they are a tired mimeographed plot with predictable ends and passable acting. They are cash machines driven by patrons who are easily entertained. Sorry. No offense to those who like them
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
November 16, 2021, 02:46 PM
DanH
In the same vein of “90% of everything is shit,” it’s the 10% that people remember. It’s also the same with Ridley Scott. 90% of his movies aren’t great, but the 10% that isn’t make him the legend he is.
November 16, 2021, 03:02 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by DanH: 90% of his movies aren’t great, but the 10% that isn’t make him the legend he is.
Hmm... A 90/10 split is a hard sell for Ridley Scott's career, IMO. Let's check out his filmography of 26 films he's directed (not counting the couple more that are in the pipeline but haven't been released):
1977 The Duelists 1979 Alien 1982 Blade Runner 1985 Legend 1987 Someone to Watch Over Me 1989 Black Rain 1991 Thelma & Louise 1992 1492: Conquest of Paradise 1996 White Squall 1997 G.I. Jane 2000 Gladiator 2001 Hannibal 2001 Black Hawk Down 2003 Matchstick Men 2005 Kingdom of Heaven 2006 A Good Year 2007 American Gangster 2008 Body of Lies 2010 Robin Hood 2012 Prometheus 2013 The Counselor 2014 Exodus: Gods and Kings 2015 The Martian 2017 Alien: Covenant 2017 All the Money in the World 2021 The Last Duel
No, they're not 100% great by any stretch of the imagination. A few of them are real stinkers, in fact. But by my count, he's at around 7 (27%) that are excellent, and another 4 or 5 (split the difference and call it 17.5%) that are good but not amazing.
Though to be fair, on a couple of those excellent films, it did take him a couple cracks at various cuts/edits before finding the sweet spot, like Blade Runner and Kingdom of Heaven.
Still, that's a better average than many other directors out there, and a far cry from only having 2 to 3 great films (10%).
November 16, 2021, 03:08 PM
Strambo
Yeah the superhero movies are garbage. My 12yo son likes them so it’s something we can watch together at least.
I wanted to like Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot makes me have a funny feeling like after climbing the rope in gym class.
In the preview when she does a flying knee to the Kraut out the window and the camera freezes and pans around, awesome special effects!
…and then they proceeded to use that same trick in every. single. fight.
“People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik
Originally posted by Vgex: This the guy that made that stinker Prometheus? While I agree with him, his words aren’t exactly controversial.
DOOOD!!!! That's blasphemy!!!!
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
November 16, 2021, 03:38 PM
DanH
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Hmm... A 90/10 split is a hard sell for Ridley Scott's career, IMO. Let's check out his filmography of 26 films he's directed (not counting the couple more that are in the pipeline but haven't been released):
No, they're not 100% great by any stretch of the imagination. A few of them are real stinkers, in fact. But by my count, he's at around 7 (27%) that are excellent, and another 4 or 5 (split the difference and call it 17.5%) that are good but not amazing.
And to be fair, on a couple of those excellent films, it did take him a couple cracks at various cuts/edits before finding the sweet spot, like Blade Runner and Kingdom of Heaven.
Still, that's a better average than many other directors out there, and a far cry from only having 2 to 3 great films (10%).
It’s the quote I found. I’d argue there’s more than 10% of superhero movies that are excellent, but the trash that is getting thrown in to make a quick buck doesn’t disqualify the great ones that were made. Just like Ridley Scott’s career. My count is 9 good (The Duelists, Alien, Blade Runner, Black Rain, Thelma & Louise, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, The Martian {despite Matt Damon}, and All the Money In The World) and the rest crap (about 30/70). It’s also hard to argue him not eclipsing The Duelists, Alien, and Blade Runner (which would be 10%).
He’s definitely not Christopher Nolan who’s worst movie might be a good one like “Insomnia.”
November 16, 2021, 03:49 PM
Prefontaine
Agree with him. Nolan's trilogy was excellent, and so were 1-2 of the Marvel bullshit films. Dr. Strange an that first Thor. None of the rest of the 30 odd movies were worth 2 shits to me. All of the Disney stuff is really crap. Good on Ridley to have the balls to say it.
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
November 16, 2021, 03:57 PM
mark123
Or, we could let people enjoy whatever they want. Mr. Scott, I don’t care.
November 16, 2021, 05:55 PM
Graniteguy
Alien, Legend,Gladiator, The Martian, Thelma & Louise, GI Jane, Blackhawk Down, American Gangster. Bunch a duds. Did anyone even watch those movies?
November 16, 2021, 05:57 PM
bigwagon
Bladerunner alone is better than every Marvel movie ever made combined.
November 16, 2021, 06:16 PM
KSGM
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO: DOOOD!!!! That's blasphemy!!!!
Agreed. I liked Prometheus a lot.
November 16, 2021, 06:27 PM
LS1 GTO
quote:
Originally posted by KSGM:
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO: DOOOD!!!! That's blasphemy!!!!
Agreed. I liked Prometheus a lot.
Of all the Alien movies, I lied that one the best.
Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
"If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers
The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own...
November 16, 2021, 06:36 PM
medic451
This pretty much sums up Prometheus and why it kinda sucks.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist"
November 16, 2021, 06:51 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
quote:
Originally posted by Vgex: This the guy that made that stinker Prometheus? While I agree with him, his words aren’t exactly controversial.
DOOOD!!!! That's blasphemy!!!!
Prometheus was far above the original Aliens films.
Thelma and Louise ? Great in my opinion.
美しい犬
November 16, 2021, 07:00 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va: Prometheus was far above the original Aliens films.
Prometheus wasn't bad, but that's quite the stretch. For me, it barely ranks as the third best Alien film, behind Alien and Aliens.
November 16, 2021, 07:15 PM
Expert308
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va: Prometheus was far above the original Aliens films.
Prometheus wasn't bad, but that's quite the stretch. For me, it barely ranks as the third best Alien film, behind Alien and Aliens.
I haven't been able to stay interested in Prometheus long enough to finish it. Maybe I'll try it again. Alien was the best of that series, probably just because it was the first and set the bar. Aliens was good shoot-em-up fun to watch. 3 and 4, meh at best.
November 16, 2021, 07:21 PM
DanH
Prometheus falls apart the longer the movie goes. If you can make the edits in your brain that this is LV-426 and the movie ends at the crash of the two ships, it's ok.
Except you can't....
November 16, 2021, 07:24 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by Expert308: Alien was the best of that series, probably just because it was the first and set the bar. Aliens was good shoot-em-up fun to watch. 3 and 4, meh at best.
Yep.
And we won't even bother ranking the *ugh* Alien vs. Predator flicks.
