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The brand name and numbering system has been discontinued. Instead of have 3000, 5000, and 7000 series Latitudes, it will be Base, Plus, and Premium of the Dell Pro line. Similarly, the Dell Precision line of laptops will now be the Dell Pro Max line. What laptop you pick should depend on how you are going to use it. At the school I substitute teach at, I see a wide variety of laptops and how they are holding up year after year. I have yet to see anything that would change my mind that midgrade or higher business class laptop doesn't hold up significantly better than your run of the mill consumer grade laptop. In the Dell Latitude, that would be 5000 series or higher. I bought three of those for my kids during COVID and they are still going strong. The Apple MacBooks hold up well as do the Microsoft Surface products. When my oldest transitioned to taking college classes in high school, I bought him a Surface Pro. He showed me the notes he takes using the pen and it's fantastic. He's on his 4th year with it and I told him if he needs a new one, his 529 plan has the money for it, but he said it's fine. If your aren't going to use a laptop on the go frequently, then lower grade ones will suffice. I cannot imagine the rational for wishing for Windows Vista over Windows 11. Vista was awful and crashed all the time for me. I've had zero issues with Windows 11. My kids have had zero issues with it and I haven't heard anyone at the school complain about it either. | |||
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+1 ... I also prefer Lenovo Thinkpads. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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According to the Dell website, the new 'Pro' and 'Pro Max' Laptops are, "professional-grade AI PCs and devices that deliver enhanced productivity, industry-leading security and manageability, and advanced sustainability." On that statement alone, I'd be inclined to purchase the legacy/classic Latitude if I were considering a Dell Laptop. I have ZERO need for AI in my PC...I bring my own intelligence to the keyboard. ![]() ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Minus the AI drivel, the Latitudes had all that as well as all business class laptops do. The only thing I care about is the better durability those machine offer. AI is the new Cloud; everything from shoe polish to governments will tout being AI enhanced, enabled, employed, and embellished. | |||
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MacBook Air all the way. I’ll never buy another windows machine. My MacBook is 10 years old and going strong. ----------------------------------------- Roll Tide! Glock Certified Armorer NRA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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I've always had good luck with Dell Latitudes, in fact the one I'm on right now is like 20 years old and still going. And yeah, Win 11 sucks. I used both Win 7 (home) and Win 10 (work) for years and liked both. I picked up a 2nd laptop last year for minor tasks and it came with Win 11 on it. I futzed around with that for a day or two, decided "fuck this", wiped the brand new drive and installed Linux on it. Much better. | |||
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MSI - Most have metal cases and no "bloatware" - except of course that damn Microsoft OneDrive that always comes activated. -Scott -NRA Pistol Instructor -NRA Shotgun Instructor -NRA Range Safety Officer -NRA Metallic cartridge & Shotgun Reloading Instructor -MA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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Apple all the way. I have kept various Apple computers going for a long time. The current offerings are amazing. I now have a MacBook Pro M4Pro 48GB RAM and love it. Should last me at least five years if not a decade. Not sure where you are vis a vis Google. If you are in that universe, a high end Chromebook is nice. Easy to renovate. Stays updated. ------- Trying to simplify my life... | |||
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For the use description… just get a tablet. -- I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. JALLEN 10/18/18 https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...610094844#7610094844 | |||
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The Dell outlet site is a great option. I like the XPS line, but I like small and light with good battery life. Your needs may vary. If you've been living with Windows 8, you have nothing to worry about Windows 11. It works just fine. | |||
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Lenovo Think Pad or Yoga. I have the Yoga and like the presentation and built in tablet functionality. On sale, quite reasonable. Probably have a Memorial Day Sale right now. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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As plenty of others have said, get a MacBook Air. We have gotten about 10ish years out of every MacBook we have owned. Easy to learn and use and integrates well into the Apple Ecosystem. | |||
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^^^^ This or an iPad Pro with an aftermarket keyboard like this: https://www.amazon.com/your-or...rch_conn_mob_b_pop_3 Apple also has a refurbished store with full warranty. Outside of an educational discount from Apple, Costco is usually your cheapest route. Don’t skimp on memory or RAM just to save a little bit. @ Para LOL (Flintstones…). __________________________ | |||
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Yes. Yes. But get a Windows machine. Then after it dies in another five years, then just buy a new one. Keep your most sensitive and important stuff backed up to an encrypted, secured, pay-for cloud storage provider. The best ones cannot decrypt your stuff because of the encryption typologies and internal policies followed. Even for those located in five eyes etc. countries. Then when you get another computer, just download it all again. If your new unit will contain sensitive stuff, use Veracrypt, and KeePass, to encrypt your stuff (for data and files, and credentials and passwords respectively), so if the unit is stolen, you won't have to worry about it. BTW those products are free, mostly open source, and you can trust it. We use one of them professionally in my IT dept for sensitive stuff (among more sophisticated pay-for security providers). Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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HP has always been good to me as well. Windows 8.1, impressive that you were able to milk it along. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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I've had pretty good luck with HP Pavilions. The one I'm on will be 6 years old next month. I'll probably upgrade it to Win 11 once support goes away for 10. The one before lasted over 10 years before the display went. I will probably get another if this one craps out. Always appreciated the speaker sound quality on these. Certainly not much love for HP around here though. ____________ Pace | |||
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HP or Dell business lines only. I have several HPs all working, all many years old. The consumer lines are considered disposable. Apple, if you are into their ecosystem. You pay a premium for Apple, but it is worth it if you have their other stuff. I either buy off eBay or refurbished directly from the OEM. | |||
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My grandson, who was in college at Penn State, told me that the discount was 5%. If you're eligible for Military discount (active or veteran), it's 10%, which will stack with the Apple refurb discount, so around 25% total discount. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Disclaimer: You couldn't pay me to use an MS-Windows machine. Far, far too many bad/frustrating experiences dealing with them when I worked in I.T. For the rare occasions I need a laptop I've an old Dell Latitude D530 my employer gifted me when I retired. It dual-boots Linux and MS-Win 7 Pro—the latter of which I only ever boot into to see if it still runs. It's heavy, doesn't have a lot of runtime on battery, and the screen isn't awfully bright, but it works. When it eventually bites the dust I'll replace it with either another, up-to-date-ish Dell equivalent, upon which I'll run Linux, or a MacBook. In any event I would not have a Lenovo machine (1) or an HP (2). The choice will mainly boil down to whether or not I'll be able to do everything I want with a MacBook. For me a laptop is more a tech tool than anything else. It spends 99-44/100% of its time in its laptop bag, collecting dust. But when I need it, I need it. That's why I have one and why I'll replace it. (1) Lenovo is a Chinese manufacturer. (2) HP once-upon-a-time made terrific calculators and test equipment, great laser printers, and decent minicomputers, but I was never impressed with anything else they made. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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While I agree with the business class suggestions if you want a cheaper option, I have bought a few refurbished laptops from WOOT for under $300 when I don’t want to risk an expensive one. My current laptop for out in the shop is used for reading shop manuals, web surfing, how-to videos, and such. It runs Office including Viszo and I use it to manage my home automation system. It cost about $250ish and for general light use it has been fine for the last few years. The problem with Apple is the OS is different enough, that you need to learn it. It isn’t that hard to learn, but it can be a PITA, especially if you still need to use windows for work. My mac airbook rarely gets opened since I left our company's mobility program where I used it for managing the iPads we issued. It seems like every time I used it, I had to google how to do something. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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