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Sheriff Judd's take... Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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| Freethinker |
Left wing logic: “Why did you kill him?” “Because when we tried to arrest him, he shot at us.” “Why were you trying to arrest him?” “Because we had a warrant for his arrest resulting from his robbing a bank and killing a teller and customer.” “Well, you see, that’s exactly why you shouldn’t have been trying to arrest him. You knew he was dangerous and that he might resist arrest. If you hadn’t tried to arrest him, you wouldn’t have had to kill him and he’d be alive today. You are a bunch of murderers!” Evidently something we must become accustomed to. ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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What video did you watch? The ones I’ve seen show one officer in front of her with the rest of the street in front of her is completely clear. I don’t see her intending to kill anyone including the officer in front of her. I can’t see intent. I can just as easily claim her intent was to flee which is what it looks likes she attempted. Yes, with her vehicle, she made contact with the officer. In the video from the passenger’s side of her vehicle, it looks like a shove that the officer could have merely stepped to his right to avoid and no one else would have been in the slightest danger. I 100% side with the officer. He was doing his job and did what he thought he had too. She inserted herself into the situation, obstructed the officers, and did everything else wrong after that as well none of which a normal or reasonable person would do. | |||
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| Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
So, in fleeing she committed assault with a deadly weapon on law enforcement. See Sheriff Judd's take for mine. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Yes, and regardless of what her intent might have been, they both look the same to the agent. There's no functional difference. "The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke | |||
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Contradict yourself much? If you are sitting in a running vehicle deliberately obstructing federal or any other legal law enforcement activity you might as well be holding a loaded gun. It has become the weapon of choice by the activists to ram ICE officers with their vehicles. There have been at least 100 documented cases of this. This started when the Muslims were using trucks to drive into crowds of people or turning them into car bombs. The left has now adopted the same tactic. Anyone of these activist could easily have a bomb waiting for as many ICE agents to surround the car as possible and then detonate the bomb. It's only one step away from that. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Freethinker |
Yes. Paying attention to the news makes that clear about regular events in foreign countries. The only thing that is surprising is that they and other measures I could name are not more common here—and that might just be at least in part because people who try such things are more likely to get shot here than abroad. The left is reveling in its orgy of outrage about this incident, but at the same time it is no doubt giving any number of would-be imitators something to think about. We sometimes see the ridiculous claim that police activities don’t prevent crimes, and although it’s true that they don’t prevent all crime, they certainly prevent some. If you don’t believe that, look up the effects on society in areas where there is no effective law enforcement at all. ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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Not at all. I believe I’m contradicting this: “saved … the lives of other civilians and law enforcement personnel. This lady was clearly unhinged and intended on killing as many people as possible with her car.” I don’t see that anywhere in any video I’ve seen so far regarding this incident. I agree with Sheriff Judd as well and don’t believe I wrote anything that would indicate otherwise. | |||
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| Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Wikipedia page on vehicle ramming attacks Its not uncommon in the US. I will say that the event that proved this is an effective technique for killing people occurred in Nice in 2016 with 86 killed and 458 injured. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
A couple of observations of what I'm seeing from the left on social media. First, tons of complete misinformation. e.g. claiming that a leo cannot legally stand in front of a vehicle because it is "unlawful restraint". And if the officer could have escaped from death, which he did, that he had no authority to use deadly force. Second, a total acceptance of any means to oppose Trump, including violence. These things have rapidly escalated in the public arena in the last 6 months. These weak minded useful idiots are being wound up by the puppet masters behind the scenes. The talking points are spread widely. Their lack of touch with reality is off the charts. The current opposition is nothing like anything we've seen in our lifetimes. | |||
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Sorry. You are wrong on this. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Freethinker |
Yes, they occur here, and I’m not about to suggest that this incident will stop them. Some people will be motivated to demonstrate that, “I ain’t afraid of no ICE agent,” but not everyone is that stupid. In general, as in Nice, the most deadly such incidents have occurred in foreign countries. According to the AI Copilot, the most deadly incident in the US was in New Orleans in which 15 were killed and the second most deadly attack here killed six. In other countries there were five recorded incidents in which more than six were killed. Plus that doesn’t account for all the injured which tends to be ignored. Do we suppose having his leg blown off during the Boston Marathon bombing affected one man’s running career even though he wasn’t killed? Being run over by a truck can have life-long effects even if it’s not fatal. “Oh, the ICE agent was barely stuck by the SUV, so what was the big deal?” Perhaps that could be the basis for an Internet video: Volunteer to be the run-over, and I’m betting the vid would get a lot of views. ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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^^^That’s nice and all, but how many people were in danger in this incident had the officer stepped to his right? Seriously, this why I posted: I read carpenter’s post, watched the VP, and pictured in my mind a crowd of people in front of her. Then I watched the videos and it’s clear that the only person in any danger was the officer in front of her. Also, none of those people there believed, were prepared, or would have been saved because the officer shot her if she was driving a car bomb.  | |||
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New video shows ICE shooting victim Renee Nicole Good block road for FOUR MINUTES before she was shot so wife could leap out of car to begin filming
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Fair enough. Your original post did not clarify that you were contradicting just the statement you are pointing out here and I agree with that. She wasn't maniacally trying to run every person in sight over. Reading you original post it came off as you were almost ready to call the ICE agent a murderer and then right into saying he was 100% right and she was wrong. Thanks for clarifying. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Internet Guru |
Progressive media is presenting this as if this poor lady was driving down the road minding her own business. Most leftist I talk to believe she panicked and was fleeing from masked men pointing guns at her. Our media is criminal, and this is getting out of hand. The whole scenario looks different depending on the critical information that she put herself there on purpose and knew she was dealing with law enforcement. Hard to understand how any actual journalist would be okay with lying through omission. | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
One sharp difference between this incident and pretty much any high profile use of force incident in the last decade is that the Trump administration is publicly standing behind the officer and giving him the benefit of the doubt. The slimy, self-serving, politically-expedient approach has long been to immediately throw the guy under the bus before the investigation is even complete, just to distance themselves from his actions and appease the mob. The fact that we now have leadership that won't act like that is refreshing. ----------------------------------------------------------- Any comments made by this poster are my own and do not reflect the views or opinions of my employer. | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
The leftists, abetted by the MSM, are using this event to successfully convince many apolitical Americans that the ICE officer murdered Good. That success is largely enabled by photos of an ICE officer standing beside her car with his pistol aimed at Good. President Trump forced a NYT reporter to view a grainy video of ICE officer 'Jon' Ross, standing in front of her car and firing at her through her windshield as she drives into him. That video is seldom seen by apolitical Americans. In fact, I haven’t seen it myself. And not in this thread. Serious about crackers. | |||
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Maybe and a big maybe in a civil suit. The UNITED STATES ATTORNEY for Wisconsin reports to the Attorney General of the United States, this is a good shoot and the Agent won't be charged. | |||
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Dies Irae |
Good video on the matter. | |||
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