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September 24, 2025, 05:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Two mausers is an odd coincidence.

Likely an intentional copycat, as evidenced by the similar ammo markings and choice of rifle.

But there's also the fact that there were many millions of Mauser 98 rifles made over the last 127 years. Estimated total Mauser 98 production across all companies and model varieties exceeds 100 million rifles. (And they're still in production today, though modern Mauser 98 offerings tend to be higher end semi-custom hunting rifles made in small numbers.)

And there are currently millions of them in the hands of US gun owners as well. Up until 20ish years ago, surplus Mauser 98 rifles in a variety of flavors were widely available and cheap. Availability slumped and prices rose since, but we've actually seen a slight resurgence in the availability of surplus rifles on the secondary market recently, as older collectors die and their uninterested families sell their collections off, which is a trend that will likely continue for the time being.

So on its own, 2 out of these X million commonly available rifles being used in shootings isn't that much of a coincidence.

September 24, 2025, 05:42 PM

parabellum

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
So on its own, 2 out of these X million commonly available rifles being used in shootings isn't that much of a coincidence.

Try and convince all the "experts" on Twitter I SAID TWITTER of that.

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September 24, 2025, 06:00 PM

ScreamingCockatoo

This is a 20 something. I assume he went and purchased the least expensive rifle on the store?
I'm speculating that this was a budget purchase or straw purchase.
Planning for mayhem.
I remember straight bolt Mausers for $80 back in the early 2000s.
I don't even know what a sporterized Mauser is going for these days.

September 24, 2025, 06:06 PM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
This is a 20 something. I assume he went and purchased the least expensive rifle on the store?

Or he recently inherited the Mauser that his grandfather bought out of a barrel at the hardware store for $20 back in 1970-something.

quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
I don't even know what a sporterized Mauser is going for these days.

Not much.

Collectors generally won't bother with a sporterized milsurp, unless it's just an exceedingly rare model, or it hasn't been permanently altered and is a candidate for restoration to original configuration without too much hassle.

And while cheap milsurps used to be popular with prior generations for use as inexpensive hunting rifles, hunters nowadays generally aren't interested either since deer rifles with more modern features are cheap and plentiful.

Sporterized milsurps tend to go for pennies on the dollar compared to the high prices that unmolested milsurp rifles can command these days.

September 24, 2025, 06:45 PM

jljones

I expect this type of copycat attacks will continue by the party that champions gun control. I’d also venture to say that writing on bullets is now a thing as if was glorified by the media in the Kirk shooting.

The tyvex suit indicates that the low IQ seem to also be trying to learn from other killers.

September 24, 2025, 06:55 PM

ScreamingCockatoo

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
This is a 20 something. I assume he went and purchased the least expensive rifle on the store?

Well then, that would be 2 coincidences.
I'm no tin foil hat nutter.
So either he or someone acquired an inexpensive rifle for him.

Now the democrats are yet again calling for "both sides" to tone down the rhetoric.

No you commie shits, this is all on y'all.
And we will continue to point out that YOUR side is the problem.

September 24, 2025, 07:03 PM

vthoky

quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Now the democrats are yet again calling for "both sides" to tone down the rhetoric.

I believe it was Gutfeld who said that the left only calls for both sides to do something when it’s something the left is already guilty of.

September 24, 2025, 07:12 PM

Skins2881

If the right would just stop saying things the left didn't like, then the left would stop murdering and assaulting the right.

Maybe.

September 24, 2025, 07:21 PM

trapper189

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Two mausers is an odd coincidence.

Likely an intentional copycat, as evidenced by the similar ammo markings and choice of rifle.

<snip>

So on its own, 2 out of these X million commonly available rifles being used in shootings isn't that much of a coincidence.

Not a gun savvy copycat considering the one gun was a Mauser in name only. The M18 is based on the J.P. Sauer & Sons S-100.

September 24, 2025, 07:24 PM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Not a gun savvy copycat considering the one gun was a Mauser in name only. The M18 is based on the J.P. Sauer & Sons S-100.

I've seen no evidence that either shooter used a Mauser M18...

Kirk's killer used a sporterized Mauser 98 of unknown origin.

This guy appears to have likely also used a Mauser 98 of some flavor, based on the limited photos available so far.

So not sure where you're getting the M18. The modern Mauser M18/Sauer S100 (introduced in 2016) doesn't resemble the Mauser 98 other than the fact that that they're both bolt actions, and they were both made by the Mauser company at one point, among others. They're completely different actions.

September 24, 2025, 09:43 PM

Oscar Zulu

Im betting it's a Yugo 48. I bought one because it was cheap in the early 2000'S, Planed to rebarrel it in 30-06. It came with ammo and clips that looked just like that. Pretty rough rifle.

OZ

September 25, 2025, 05:17 AM

Captain Morgan

How does that body not fall to the ground? His knees should have buckled under his weight.

September 25, 2025, 06:45 AM

trapper189

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK
So not sure where you're getting the M18.

The internet, same as everyone else, but I’m wrong. I missed it had been confirmed to be a 98 in the Affidavit of Probable Cause file in Utah.

Sorry, that’s what I get for not paying attention.

September 25, 2025, 06:54 AM

RichardC

quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
I’d also venture to say that writing on bullets is now a thing as if was glorified by the media in the Kirk shooting.

When will the 24/7, give-us-dirty-laundry mass media acknowledge their own significant moneygrubbing guilty part
in the exponential rise in self-glorification murders over the past couple decades?

Even hint at it?

Rhetorical question, of course.

Its interesting when people die.

September 25, 2025, 08:20 AM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Morgan:
How does that body not fall to the ground? His knees should have buckled under his weight.

Combination of his body weight and friction on the fairly shallow angle of that shingled roof extension under his back, plus being propped up by the rifle. You can see how the side of his torso is indented by the muzzle, meaning it's supporting a decent amount of weight.

Dead bodies often fall funny.

September 25, 2025, 10:19 AM

BMR

quote:
Originally posted by vthoky:
quote:
Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Now the democrats are yet again calling for "both sides" to tone down the rhetoric.

I believe it was Gutfeld who said that the left only calls for both sides to do something when it’s something the left is already guilty of.

Gutfeld's other observation yesterday was that there are two sides to this violence - the left and the far left.

September 25, 2025, 11:19 AM

stoic-one

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/.../1971213954123751822

quote:
@FBIDallas
and FBI HQ have been working 24/7 to seize devices, exploit data, and process writings obtained on location and in the subject's person/residence/bedroom. This @FBI
is committed to providing timely updates, as promised:

- The perp downloaded a document titled "Dallas County Office of Homeland Security & Emergency Management" containing a list of DHS facilities.
- He conducted multiple searches of ballistics and the "Charlie Kirk Shot Video" between 9/23-9/24.
-Between 8/19-8/24, he searched apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents.
- One of the handwritten notes recovered read, "Hopefully this will give ICE agents real terror, to think, 'is there a sniper with AP rounds on that roof?"
- Further accumulated evidence to this point indicates a high degree of pre-attack planning.

The FBI will provide further updates when able.

September 25, 2025, 11:39 AM

preten2b

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Morgan:
How does that body not fall to the ground? His knees should have buckled under his weight.

If you turn the photo till the air conditioning unit appears horizontal you'll see that most of his weight is on the sloped roof then brace by the rifle barrel.

September 25, 2025, 12:54 PM

corsair

quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
I expect this type of copycat attacks will continue by the party that champions gun control. I’d also venture to say that writing on bullets is now a thing as if was glorified by the media in the Kirk shooting.

The tyvex suit indicates that the low IQ seem to also be trying to learn from other killers.

Seeing the stripper-clip, my initial thought was he used grandpa's M1, since it was used in WWII shooting nazi's so he was going to do the same. Instead, following the further deranged thinkings of these sickos, grabbing a Mauser is either a copy-cat purchase or, was simply a low-cost option. The writings on the ammunition is further evidence of the deep mental issues that we've seen with extremists bent on ideological lines, regardless of left or right.

As for the Tyvex suit...not sure what this guy's thought process was other than he probably thought he could put it on and leave no physical/DNA evidence behind; just like in the movies

. Realty is he either didn't have time to put it on or, was so anxiety ridden that he fumbled though the sequence of his plan and the suit was left on the ground.